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Old 02-12-2010, 01:53 AM   #501
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I found that if I pull the corn and rice down by 50% and replace with table sugar, that cream ale characteristic (slight corn flavor) goes away and the beer gets much crisper.
so 2 pounds of Corn and .50 pounds of rice? I thought I saw in another comment where you backed off a 1/2 pound of each and replaced with 1 pound corn sugar. Also would corn sugar would give the same results?
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Old 02-14-2010, 07:54 PM   #502
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I just kegged this beer but I am tempted to rename it to Cream of Three Hops as I loosely followed BM's Centennial Ale hop schedule, galena to bitter, centennial and cascade for flavor and aroma

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Old 02-15-2010, 01:44 PM   #503
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...Also would corn sugar would give the same results?
Corn sugar would give the same results, but I like the cost and simplicity of table sugar since it doesn't require a trip to the LHBS. But certainly at one pound, they are interchangeable.
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Old 02-15-2010, 02:39 PM   #504
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Well I had a go at it today and yesterday. I use a stove top and pots so I had to play around with the numbers a bit.


Yesterday I brewed with:
5 lb pale 2-row
2 lb flaked maize
12 oz Minute Rice
.5 oz Crystal and
.5 oz Williamette

I finished around midnight and it is already bubbling away

Right now I am working on:

5lb Pale 2-row
1 lb Honey Malt grains (mix it up a bit)
2lb Flaked Maize
8 oz Minute Rice (all I had left)
10 oz table sugar.
.5 oz Crystal and
.5 oz Williamette


I am really curious to see how these are going to turn our! I am really interested in seeing what the honey grain will add/take away from this.

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Old 02-15-2010, 09:12 PM   #505
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I've made this recipe twice, and really liked it. I had higher gravity but that was due to an efficiency jump and also a heavier grain bill. Since this is such a faux-lager, I was thinking of dropping a ton of saaz in late additions with the following increased grain bill (5gal) since I've got a pound of saaz pellets and need to use them. Maybe a pilsner-ish imperial?
8.5 lbs 2 row
2.5 lbs corn
1.8 rice
1lb corn sugar
something around 76 IBU mostly saaz
70% eff + ~7.7% abv
does that sound tasty or nasty?

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I've made this recipe twice, and really liked it. I had higher gravity but that was due to an efficiency jump and also a heavier grain bill. Since this is such a faux-lager, I was thinking of dropping a ton of saaz in late additions with the following increased grain bill (5gal) since I've got a pound of saaz pellets and need to use them. Maybe a pilsner-ish imperial?
8.5 lbs 2 row
2.5 lbs corn
1.8 rice
1lb corn sugar
something around 76 IBU mostly saaz
70% eff + ~7.7% abv
does that sound tasty or nasty?
Any late additions on this otherwise non-hoppy ale will really (REALLY) come through. If you're brewing for your own hop-fix...go for it. If it's going to be a populist brew for other non-craft drinkers...ya might want to stick closer tot he original recipe.
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Old 02-18-2010, 09:18 PM   #507
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So I made this again since my first attemp is un-drinkable so far. I am making it for an uncle that is comming to visit from march 13-20th. I brewed last monday and everything went smooth. My SG was a bit high, started at 1.048, and now, 10 days later it is down to 1.008. I am going to use AE to dry it out a bit and I have a few questions. First, when should I rack to the secondary and add the AE? The gravity is steady now, buy you can still see activity in the carboy. And then when should I bottle? I know I am cutting it close only having 5 weeks grain to glass, but I promised my uncle to have this ready for him.

EDIT: Also, how much priming sugar should I use for a 5 gallon batch?

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Old 02-19-2010, 12:21 AM   #508
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One thing I've found is that the corny taste fades almost to nothing in the keg if you keep it cold for about 4 weeks. Three weeks on the gas, set and forget was corny. A week later it was gone.

I'm only saying this because I was really thinking of cutting back on the corn the next time. Now, I'm not so sure I'm going to. Also, the batch I bottled never really had much of the corny flavor by the time it was carbed up enough to drink.

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Old 02-19-2010, 01:39 AM   #509
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As there are 500+ post I am sorry if this has been ask before.

I am planning a 5.5 gal batch of this and I do not keg so I would like to know what is recommended for the amount of time this should carb/age in bottles?

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Old 02-19-2010, 02:18 PM   #510
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You should always give bottles 2 weeks minimum and 3 weeks or longer is much better. It takes time for the Co2 to dissolve fully in solution and condition properly.

4.5 to 5oz dextrose is a commonly used amount of priming sugar for 5g, or somewhere between 2/3 and 3/4 cup

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