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Old 08-24-2013, 08:25 PM   #2101
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Stone ground corn meal has some of the hull and germ left in it and that gives it more corn taste as opposed to steel ground which has almost all the hull and germ removed .
Polenta is ground corn meal with all the germ removed .

so the question is , do you need that germ ( the reproductive part of the seed that sprouts ) ?
I do think you would need to do a cereal mash on meal .

you could go to the feed and seed store or coop and buy field corn and then grind it and cereal mash it and be good to go . I am pretty sure flaked corn is made from field corn and not sweet . Something to do with the starches needed for mash .

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Old 08-24-2013, 08:30 PM   #2102
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I just bottled my hopped up version of this . Cascade , hallertauer and chinook . Tasted pretty good right out of fermenter . How ever I think it needs even more hops to get the flavor . Tasted a bit different than the original but not much really .
I think this is going to be good . If it comes out tasting real good I will post the recipe . 5.64% ABV

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Old 08-27-2013, 05:44 PM   #2103
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Brewed this a couple of times however my last turned out cloudier than normal.

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Old 08-27-2013, 06:38 PM   #2104
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Has anyone tried making this recipe using Vienna malt for the base malt instead of pale malt? Someone gave me a bag of Vienna and I want to try some different recipes with it.
Does Vienna have the diastatic power to self-convert in an all-Vienna mash?
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Old 08-27-2013, 06:58 PM   #2105
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Does Vienna have the diastatic power to self-convert in an all-Vienna mash?
Yes.

But using Vienna will make a very different beer.
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Old 09-02-2013, 11:16 PM   #2106
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I've been planning to make this since April and was hoping it would be my summer quencher. I finally got around to it today and made a few adjustments... Did 5 gals and used only 1# of flaked maize and substituted corn sugar for the second. I was hoping to avoid heavy corn characteristics... Had the batch in the primary at 3pm and its already bubbling away thanks to a 1 quart starter of s-05.

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Old 09-03-2013, 01:12 AM   #2107
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Yes.

But using Vienna will make a very different beer.
Very different for sure. I made it and wasn't impressed.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:28 PM   #2108
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Huge thread.


Want to brew this weekend. Running shy on flaked maize, by about half the amount or more. i know i have one pound on hand possibly two. Could order more flaked maize, pay the $8 s&h and hope it gets here by Saturday.
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Could try using instant grits, without any additives
I've seen debate on necessity of a cereal mash or pre-boil.
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Could try to find a corn flake cereal product without any added ingredients or preservatives. Perhaps from a health food store.
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Just make if the difference with more malt.

I've been reading up on gelatinization, and cereal mashes, but I'd like to keep it simple. Corn flakes seem ideal, but I know the big players add stuff like preservatives. Local chain adds malt syrup, HF corn syrup, sugar, and salt, but no BHT or fortification that I can tell based on the label.

Suggestions?

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I've been planning to make this since April and was hoping it would be my summer quencher. I finally got around to it today and made a few adjustments... Did 5 gals and used only 1# of flaked maize and substituted corn sugar for the second. I was hoping to avoid heavy corn characteristics... Had the batch in the primary at 3pm and its already bubbling away thanks to a 1 quart starter of s-05.
the corn taste does go away but it takes a month or so in the bottle . I was hoping my version of it I bottles a couple weeks ago would give a good reference since I used less corn but I think something is wrong with it as it has a spoiled taste . maybe it will go away so i can check for corn taste .
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Trickydick;
My suggestion would be to just use the two pounds you have . Add instant rice to beef up the ABV if you think you need to as this will not change the mouth feel or flavor of the brew .
Do not use corn flakes . I read several posts from people who did and said it tastes like crap.
If you must add in more corn because you think you need it , in my opinion you do not , then perhaps use some corn meal . Look at post 2101 . I posted the explanation of each kind of meal . I think 2 pounds would make a good beer and without the waiting for the corn taste to go away maybe .
Instant anything is ready to toss in the mash tun. The work has already been done for you.

that is my two cents worth any way

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