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BarleyWater 10-03-2008 07:23 PM

May the Schwarz-bier With You
:ban: This is my first gold medal beer, in my second competition. I have been working with this recipe in some form since I began brewing. It was originally extract, but no longer really resembles the Black Lager of the past. Hops used were only because I couldn't get anything German, but they turmed out fantastic, and are in the Hallertau family. This is a very rounded schwarzbier, not quite as roasty as some American examples, but very similar to something like Kostritzer, with a bit more body.

FOAM Cup 2008
Category: Dark Lager

Batch Size: 6.00 gal (5.00 gal into the bottle/keg)
Boil Size: 8.08 gal
Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00%


Amount Item Type % or IBU

5 lbs Munich Malt (6.0 SRM) Grain 48.78 %
4 lbs Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 39.02 %
8.0 oz Carafa III (425.0 SRM) Grain 4.88 %
4.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2.44 %
4.0 oz Chocolate Malt (475.0 SRM) Grain 2.44 %
4.0 oz Roasted Barley (500.0 SRM) Grain 2.44 %

1.00 oz Mt. Hood [6.00 %] (60 min) Hops 22.4 IBU
0.33 oz Vangaurd [4.40 %] (60 min) Hops 5.4 IBU
0.33 oz Vangaurd [4.40 %] (20 min) Hops 1.8 IBU
0.33 oz Vangaurd [4.40 %] (0 min) Hops

1 Pkgs German Lager (White Labs #WLP830) Yeast-Lager

Mash Profile

Fly Sparge, Single Infusion, Light Body
Total Grain Weight: 10.25 lb

75 min Mash In Add 12.00 qt of water at 164.3 F 151.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 8.00 qt of water at 198.3 F 168.0 F

Jamusson 10-29-2008 03:27 AM

This looks delicious, I think I'll be trying this when I brew this weekend.

beergynt 10-31-2008 04:06 PM

Looks great. I've been wanting to do a Swartzbier for a while now... I had actually thought about that name for it!! "Only one man would dare give me the Raspberry Wheat" seems a little lang though!

Professor Frink 10-31-2008 04:15 PM

This looks great, I'll be trying this out right after Thanksgiving.

2nd Street Brewery 10-31-2008 07:10 PM

Looks great, pretty close to one I have. I use a little less Carafa II than you do III but the base amounts are the same. Can't think of my hop schedule off the top of my head but I know I don't use those varieties. Swartzbier is a great style

got home and pulled up mine
Amount Item Type % or IBU
6.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 57.69 %
3.75 lb Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 36.06 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2.40 %
0.20 lb Carafa II (412.0 SRM) Grain 1.92 %
0.20 lb Chocolate Malt (450.0 SRM) Grain 1.92 %
28.00 gm Northern Brewer [9.30 %] (60 min) Hops 34.6 IBU
14.00 gm Northern Brewer [9.30 %] (20 min) Hops 10.5 IBU
14.00 gm Northern Brewer [9.30 %] (1 min)

I usually use Hallertau for my hops but I was out so subbed NB

Edit for crappy formating

BarleyWater 11-26-2008 04:42 AM

Ya, I really only used those varieties due to hop shortage, otherwise it would have been Hallertau instead of Vangaurd. American "noble" varieties are a lot easier to come by than the real nobles from Germany these days. You could really use any noble German hop, or reasonable substitute.

I wanted it really dark, that's why the carafaIII. It is a little roastier than a typical schwarzbier like Kostitzer, and has gotten dinged in comps for it, but that's how I like it, and it has won a gold, so I'm not changing a thing, except maybe the hop varieties.

Decojuicer 12-23-2008 01:06 AM

Here's mine. It seems to be a crowd pleaser.

10.00 lb Munich Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 47.06 %
10.00 lb Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 47.06 %
1.00 lb Carafa II (412.0 SRM) Grain 4.71 %
0.25 lb Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 1.18 %
1.00 oz Tettnang [4.50 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
3.00 oz Hallertauer [4.50 %] (60 min) Hops 24.0 IBU
1 Pkgs Bavarian Lager (Wyeast Labs #2206) [Starter 125 ml] Yeast-Lager

Est Original Gravity: 1.053 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.053 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.013 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.24 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 5.21 %
Bitterness: 24.0 IBU Calories: 236 cal/pint
Est Color: 27.7 SRM

By the way, it's a 10 gallon batch.

944play 12-23-2008 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Decojuicer (Post 1023602)
1.00 oz Tettnang [4.50 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -

You dry-hopped your schwarzbier?!? :fro:

Here's what I have in the keg in the fridge:

8lb 2-row
2lb Light Munich
10oz Carafa Special III
4oz Black Roasted Barley
Single infusion @152F 60min
.66oz Tradition 6.8% FWH
.66oz Tradition 6.8% 15min
.66oz Tradition 6.8% 5min
WLP830, 3qt starter
OG 1.052 FG 1.014 32 SRM 29 IBU (Rager)

Should be ready to tap in two more weeks. At racking time it was distinctly chocolatey. I want more fridge space so I can brew more lagers!

bgroins 02-10-2011 11:57 PM

Just tapped a keg of this. It's damned delicious. Really and excellent example of the style. I think the only change I would make is deleting the roasted barley. My only other complaint is that it goes away too quickly!

dunnright00 03-13-2011 06:11 AM

I'm looking to make a similar recipe, but I'm having a hard time finding the Carafa Special II.

I'm going to check with the LHBS, but none of the on-line shops I've been looking at seem to have it.

Where do you'all get your Carafa?

Edit: Never mind, Brewmasters Warehouse has it.

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