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Old 10-09-2012, 07:35 PM   #71
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being as my fermentation took forever to start, should i wait a couple days to do a diacetyl rest? it was smelling kinda buttery there for a day or two but doesn't really smell that way now. bubbles were coming out every thirty seconds or so when i checked on it yesterday.
How long has it been fermenting? I do my d-rests after about 10 days. I raise the temperature 3 degrees F each day until I reach 66 F. Then I keg and drop the temperature by 3 degrees F daily until I reach 34-36F. I then lager for at least 4 weeks.

Which yeast did you use?
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Old 10-10-2012, 12:46 AM   #72
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It's been in primary for 16 days. Observable fermentation didn't start till day four though. I used white labs wlp830 1 vial, no starter.

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Old 10-10-2012, 12:57 AM   #73
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It is strongly recommended that you use a 2 liter starter when making lagers. I would start the d-rest now.

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Old 10-10-2012, 01:58 AM   #74
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Yeah, i'm finding out the hard way why it's recommended. I was gonna buy two vials but the store only had one. Next time i'll bite the bullet and make the starter. Hopefully I won't have a batch of butter beer. Thanks b. You've been very helpful.

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Let us know how it turns out.

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Old 11-27-2012, 09:15 PM   #76
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Well, the beer turned out hoppier than i expected, but still decent, which is good considering the long lag tiem for fermentation to start. I subbed mt.hood for libert. The beer has a sort of citrus grapefruit aroma/taste that i wasn't really expecting, not bad just not too pilsnery. Thinking i might have to dilute the tapwater a bit more.

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Well, the beer turned out hoppier than i expected, but still decent, which is good considering the long lag tiem for fermentation to start. I subbed mt.hood for libert. The beer has a sort of citrus grapefruit aroma/taste that i wasn't really expecting, not bad just not too pilsnery. Thinking i might have to dilute the tapwater a bit more.
For lagers it's best to use the noble hops.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:55 PM   #78
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This recipe called for sterling and liberty, neither one is a noble hop...i don't think. I did use sterling pellets, instead of leaves, if that has anything to do with it.

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Old 12-21-2012, 10:06 PM   #79
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When I made this recipe, my idea was to split the difference between a lager like Chezchvar or Stella Artois and an American style Lager like Budweiser and come up with a hybrid - something somewhere in between. Well as it turns out, this beer is a lot closer to Stella Artois than to an American Lager. In fact the taste resemblance to Stella Artois is uncanny - hence the name.

Anyway, other than the fact that this beer is quite a bit stronger than Stella, with regards to flavor and aroma its pretty close.

I imagine you'd get even closer if you left off the 2# of Rice Flakes in the recipe. Next time I make it I will likely omit the Rice. I don't think you really need it, I just put it in there because I was trying to go big without adding a lot of body - the rice adds a bit more alcohol which makes it quite a bit stronger but it stops me at the third glass. If you want something closer to Stella thats still a guzzler omit the rice.

Here's the ingredients:

Malts:
4.5 # Weyerman Pilsner 37PPG, 2L
4.5 # American 2 Row Lager 38PPG, 2L
2 # Flaked Rice ( optional )

Mashed at 147F for 90 minutes

Hops:
1 oz Sterling Leaf 6.7% AA @ 60 minutes
1/2 oz Liberty Pellets @ 30 minutes
1/2 oz Liberty Pellets @ 10 minutes

Very simple recipe, very easy to make, very nice results.
Question about the hop part of the recipe. Do you add the sterling at 60 minutes, or you have it boil for 60 minutes?
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Boil for 60 minutes.

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