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Old 07-19-2007, 11:16 PM   #1
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anybody see a problem with this? i'm making a batch of my home made beer salsa, (basically just a super hot habanero salsa, super thin, no chunks) and don't feel like buying mason canning jars, and thought putting it in beer bottles, and just capping it with my capper, would be cool, and a novelty.

any issues anyone knows of before i do this? i use vinegar in the salsa to legnthen the "freshness" of it. isn't a beer bottle air tight, and sealed just like a mason jar???


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Old 07-20-2007, 12:33 AM   #2
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No, not really. The USDA has a website about canning, and the minimum requirement for anything is a boiling water bath, and the recommended is pressure canning. The reason mason jars work is they allow the contents to boil and release steam and pressure. Then, when you cool them down, they seal. Canning the contents by boiling while in the jar sterilize the contents. Pressure canning allows it to be at a higher temperature than boiling (240 degrees) to kill the pathogens.

"Canning" in beer bottles with a cap would be asking for botulism. Freezing would be ok, though.

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Old 07-20-2007, 12:49 AM   #3
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I thought about this method of packaging for my Smoked Porter Beer-B-Q Sauce. As Yooper stated the main reason I stayed away from it was fear of botulism. I stick with mason jars and traditional canning methods. The cost of the jars far outways the guilt I would feel from killing one of my friends.

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wow. ok thanks for the heads up!

but doing it this way, and refrigerating it, would be no different than putting it in some tupperware and refrigerating it right?
i always make lots of extra salsa, and freeze it in tupperware, then unfreeze a bunch of it at the beginning of the week, and keep it in the refrigerator, and eat it through the week.

botulism is caused by bacteria, etc. that would grow in something that was set out for a length of time unrefrigerated, but keeping it refrigerated, and eating it quickly, would be no different than any store bought salsa, that requires refrigeration would it?

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Yep. Botulism grows in unfrozen, unrefrigerated foods. And you can't taste it. And it kills you. So, it's scary stuff in improperly canned foods stored for a long time.

No reason putting salsa in a beer bottle would be different than a tupperware if refrigerated.

The acidity of salsa gives it a fairly long shelf life naturally, also. Cheers

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wow. ok thanks for the heads up!

but doing it this way, and refrigerating it, would be no different than putting it in some tupperware and refrigerating it right?
i always make lots of extra salsa, and freeze it in tupperware, then unfreeze a bunch of it at the beginning of the week, and keep it in the refrigerator, and eat it through the week.

botulism is caused by bacteria, etc. that would grow in something that was set out for a length of time unrefrigerated, but keeping it refrigerated, and eating it quickly, would be no different than any store bought salsa, that requires refrigeration would it?
Store bought salsa contains preservatives. I'd bet you'd be better off with store bought than homemade when it comes to longevity.

However, I don't think homemade salsa, refrigerated, would be any worse than any other homemade thing refrigerated. It'd definitely last a week, most likely 2 in the fridge with appropriate handling. And given that it's got vinegar and rather acidic, it could last a long time perhaps.

I would just pitch it when it started to smell bad, but well, I'm a guy.
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I think my concern was more with, if I gave it away, I wouldn't know how it was stored. If bottled in beer bottles, I would make sure that people knew to keep it refrigerated and use it within a week or two.

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Well, the people you gave it to would also have the issue of recapping the bottle..... unless, of course, you were giving it as a gift to fellow homebrewers.

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Well, the people you gave it to would also have the issue of recapping the bottle..... unless, of course, you were giving it as a gift to fellow homebrewers.
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I'd interject that Botulism will not grow in sufficiently low pH. This is the reason why most Tomatoes can be hot packed without pressure canned. If your Salsa were quite acid, there would be no problems. You have to measure the acidity to be on the safe side.

Aside from the novelty though, it would be a PITA to get it in and out of the bottle if it weren't a very liquidy salsa.

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