Spike Brewing 12.5 Conical Fermenter Giveaway - Enter Now!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > DIY Projects > Starting Keg Conversions for a 3 Vessel E-Herms System

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-20-2013, 05:45 PM   #101
MrNatural
The Original, beware of imposters.
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
MrNatural's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Elverta, CA
Posts: 420
Liked 58 Times on 32 Posts
Likes Given: 44

Default

Awesome build. Lots of great info for folks like me currently fabbing keggles.
I'm ready to start drilling/punching holes for eHERMS and eBK with whirlpool.
Do you have a schematic or diagram with final port/connection placement?

__________________

I come awake........with the gift for womankind.
You're still asleep.......but the gift don't seem to mind.
~Ian Dury

MrNatural is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-21-2013, 12:08 PM   #102
Hoppopotomus
Cedar Hollow Brewing
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Hoppopotomus's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Ortonville/Oxford, Michigan
Posts: 1,430
Liked 83 Times on 72 Posts
Likes Given: 112

Default

Thanks mrklueber, I can't wait to get this thing up and running. I'm working on the finishing touches and then need to make a final decision on controls for this thing. I am really leaning towards the BCS system, but might still go with Kals panel.....it's still up in the air. Regardless, I still have a bit of work to do before I order controls.

MrNatural.......no I don't have any schematics of port placement. I essentially took information from Bobby's (www.brewhardware.com) keggle conversion instructions on his site and merged them with Kal's (www.theelectricbrewery.com) instructions. I also picked the brains of several other HBT'ers to help me tweak the measurements to accommodate the PICO false bottom in the MLT. I'm hesitant to post exact measurements, because it's really dependent on the exact components that you are using for your build. For instance, if you are using a JayBird false bottom, the dip tube is positioned above the false bottom and then 90's down through a hole in the false bottom. With the PICO, the dip tube must be positioned low enough to sit completely underneath the false bottom.

In the HLT, I experimented quite a bit with the heating element assembly, so that the dip tube didn't interfere with it. I am using 5500W Camco elements, which are "s" shaped, so I had to make sure that the dip tube ended up being positioned in the concavity of the element curvature. The trickiest part by far was the placement of the HERMs coil. You need to make sure that the coil sits just above the heating element without sitting directly on it, but is still low enough in the keggle to stay fully submerged. The HERMs coil tends to sag a bit and has a tendency to want to sit on the element. My remedy is to create a suspension system with 10 guage copper wire suspended from an inverted stainless eye bolt in the outer lip of the keggle top to support the coil side opposite to it's connection points at the inlet and output ports. Kal used stainless tubing for his coil and recommended 7 inches between the lower inlet port and the upper outlet port. I used 50' of 1/2" copper that I purchased from menards and had and 11" mortar bucket that I wrapped the copper around to create the coil, so that it would fit down through my 12" rough opening in the top of the keggle. Once I created the coil, it was closer to 10" tall, so the 7" measurement that Kal used wouldn't work for me. I ended up going with 9" between the upper and lower ports and removed 2 turns worth of copper from the coil (about 6 feet).

I could certainly give you some exact measurements of port placement if you want, but would hate to give you measurements that don't work for your components. Just let me know. Thanks man!

Hoppopotomus is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-21-2013, 05:19 PM   #103
MrNatural
The Original, beware of imposters.
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
MrNatural's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Elverta, CA
Posts: 420
Liked 58 Times on 32 Posts
Likes Given: 44

Default

Hoppo, man am I glad you resurrected this!! No worries with FB, going bottom dump MLT. I probably just need to mock them up before drilling, following the advice in this thread.
I've been acquiring stuff for over a year, starting with March pump and ASCO valves off CL, then BG-14 burners.
Then you guys here give me the Jones for electric.
Then my buddy across the street gives me 40ft of 6/3 and 3 reels of 10ga, plus use of his plasma cutter, welder and lathe (it did cost me 1.75 of Jameson).
I've got everything to fab convertible propane/electric except controller (leaning BCS). Holy crap do those SS fittings add up fast!
Now back to the keggle mock up..........

Thanks for the fine pics and advice,

Dale

__________________

I come awake........with the gift for womankind.
You're still asleep.......but the gift don't seem to mind.
~Ian Dury

MrNatural is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-21-2013, 05:54 PM   #104
Huaco
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Huaco's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Just south of Cow Town, Tx
Posts: 1,218
Liked 111 Times on 69 Posts
Likes Given: 32

Default

^^^^
You are going to LOVE the bottom-draining MLT!

Huaco is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-21-2013, 06:10 PM   #105
MrNatural
The Original, beware of imposters.
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
MrNatural's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Elverta, CA
Posts: 420
Liked 58 Times on 32 Posts
Likes Given: 44

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Huaco View Post
^^^^
You are going to LOVE the bottom-draining MLT!
Man, I wish I could run ALL of them bottom drain, but need to be able to direct fire HLT and BK sometimes.
__________________

I come awake........with the gift for womankind.
You're still asleep.......but the gift don't seem to mind.
~Ian Dury

MrNatural is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
one vessel brewing system cheese DIY Projects 21 09-01-2011 05:46 AM
dual vessel system BeechtreeBrewery DIY Projects 26 07-18-2011 07:02 PM
Non-Recirculating Single Vessel BIAB System Ppeg34 DIY Projects 8 05-07-2011 06:27 PM
Will a HERMS system work on 1-2 BBL system Ranger9913 DIY Projects 4 01-27-2011 08:08 PM
Starting HERMS Build rj_hockey DIY Projects 4 02-02-2009 06:22 PM