Boerderij_Kabouter

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You brought down the thunder, now get ready for the http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/2p-twent-e-new-brouwerij-boerderij-kabouter-160970/

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Boerderij_Kabouter

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Jeremy and I just finished the first wet run testing....

All systems are a go!

I'll post some pictures and details later on when I am not tired and have some time.

Briefly;
-it took 45 minutes to get 50 degree water up to 158 for strike water
-maintained mash temp flawlessly
-circulation was great
-stirrer worked well but we are going to make the paddles bigger for more agitation
-brought mash temp water (158) to boil in about 20 minutes (more on this in the forthcoming details)
-maintained a boil with a full 5.25 boil volume with no lid
-cooling was awesome, we used 1 20 lb bag of ice and cooled the full 5g from boil to 70 in 15 minutes, under 140 in 3 minutes!

Overall, the system is as awesome as I had hoped

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jkarp

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Pics or it didn't happen! :-)

Boerderij_Kabouter

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So here are some pics....

Here is the Simple Brewery in storage mode


Unpacked




boil


ice in the mash tun. That is one bag of 20lb ice


Heating times from cold water to strike temp
time temperature
9:25 PM 50.6
9:30 PM 59.6
9:35 PM 68.9
9:40 PM 77.9
9:45 PM 88.2
9:50 PM 97.8
9:55 PM 106.5
10:00 PM 114.3
10:05 PM 122.6
10:10 PM 130.0
10:15 PM 137.9
10:20 PM 145.4
10:25 PM 152.7
10:30 PM 158.0

Up to boil

11:15 AM 159.5
11:20 AM 167.3
11:25 AM 175.0
11:30 AM 182.5
11:35 AM 189.7
11:40 AM 194.0

Cooling

12:06 PM 212.0
12:09 PM 140.0
12:11 PM 100.0
12:14 PM 80.0
12:20 PM 70.0

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Boerderij_Kabouter

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No love?

14 minute cooling with a fully closed system and only 20# of ice??? Come on!

I do have a question about boiling with electric. The water was clearly boiling and rolling when the sensor was reading 182. Obviously, because the element is in the liquid the boiling will be localized, but how do you electric brewers deal with this?

We were thinking on our next brew (the first real brew day) we would keep the lid on until the full volume reached 212º then take the lid off and start our boil timer.

Do you start timing once a roll starts in the kettle, or once the full volume is up to boiling temps?

Super happy with the system. The rubber insulation does a good job IMO. The outside at boil was rather warm but not hot. You could pick up the keg by holding the outside. It was maybe 100 degrees on the outside of the rubber. Is that good?

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Boerderij_Kabouter

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Some better formatting and pretty pictures....









Basic numbers:

Rise º/min to strike water temps -> 1.7º/minute
Rise º/min to mash temps to boil -> 1.5º/minute

jkarp- what do you think of that? Similar to the countertop 20?

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wyzazz

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Personally, I'd start the timer when you get the full volume up to a boil. Technically you can "boil" however long you want as long as your hop additions are put in at the right times counting back from your "flameout".

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Boerderij_Kabouter

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I agree with you. Wait until the full volume is at a boil, I normally wait until I get the hot break then start my boil timer, I just wanted to see what everyone else was doing.

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CodeRage

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Thats what I do as well.

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I used my rig for the first time yesterday. I ran into the same thing. I started seeing boiling in the mid 180's and my rolling boil was about 195-200 for the whole boil. I just thought maybe since I am using digital now, that I am getting an more accurate reading then the old dial. Second thought was that and I am at 6500 feet in elevation.

Either way I started my timer at the hot break. I really liked boiling with electric. It work great.

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