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Old 06-03-2008, 04:11 PM   #131
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Chimone and MNBugeater-

Is that 2x2 stock you guys used?

They look great!
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:19 PM   #132
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Is that 2x2 stock you guys used?
2x2x1/8"
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:19 PM   #133
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Someone asked about the 4th keggle in my build. The stand was built to brew 2 13 gallon batches on the same day.

So the hot liquor is the top, then a mash tun/kettle, lauter tun and then one more mash tun/kettle.

I can mash 2 batches staggered about 45 minutes apart. Then transfer the 1st mash into the LT and run back to the mash/kettle combo. Once that brew is done running off the 2nd mash is transfered to the LT and run back to the other kettle.

The 2 brews cool back to back.

That is 22 gallons in 4 carboys in about 6 hours!!
Now that is impressive
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:21 PM   #134
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Someone asked about the 4th keggle in my build. The stand was built to brew 2 13 gallon batches on the same day.

So the hot liquor is the top, then a mash tun/kettle, lauter tun and then one more mash tun/kettle.

I can mash 2 batches staggered about 45 minutes apart. Then transfer the 1st mash into the LT and run back to the mash/kettle combo. Once that brew is done running off the 2nd mash is transfered to the LT and run back to the other kettle.

The 2 brews cool back to back.

That is 22 gallons in 4 carboys in about 6 hours!!
I'm not sure I completely followed. It sounds like you're doing the following.

- Mash in #2 and #4 (staggered)
- Dump the mash from #2 into #3
- Sparge from #3 back to #2 to boil
- Dump the spent grains out of #3
- Dump the mash from #4 into #3
- Sparge from #3 back to #4 to boil
- Dump the spent grains out of #3

If that's the case, I think setting two vessels up as mash/later tuns (instead of a single lauter tun) could save you some work (two mash transfers specifically).

You could have: HLT, MLT/BK, MLT, BK

- Mash in MLT (#2) and MLT (#3)
- Sparge from MLT (#2) to BK (#4) to boil
- Dump and clean out MLT (#2). Not it becomes your target BK
- Sparge from MLT (#3) to MLT/BK (#2) to boil

Make sense?

I've done a few back-to-back pipelined brews, too. Here's one thread detailing my process. The 4th vessel might have cut off ~ 30 mins, but I think only if I had someone there helping me manage things. I was pretty busy as it was, and I finished in 5 hrs, 20 mins.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:23 PM   #135
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I think you're right. A lot of guys going with the Brutus designs.
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:30 PM   #136
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Lil' Sparky - You got the gist of my brew day spot on. And you are right about saving some time by transferring one less mash.

Although I like having a dedicated lauter tun and the 2 mash/kettles. The transfer of grain only takes me about 5-10 minutes and is really easy because the LT is in the middle of the 2 mash/kettle combos. By having a mash tun I can dough in at one temp and then bring it up to say mash out and have the ability to stir the mash without a false bottom in the way.

I hear you about getting busy on those double brew days!!

Sure feels good when you look at all that beer you brewed though!
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:56 PM   #137
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Lil' Sparky - You got the gist of my brew day spot on. And you are right about saving some time by transferring one less mash.

Although I like having a dedicated lauter tun and the 2 mash/kettles. The transfer of grain only takes me about 5-10 minutes and is really easy because the LT is in the middle of the 2 mash/kettle combos. By having a mash tun I can dough in at one temp and then bring it up to say mash out and have the ability to stir the mash without a false bottom in the way.

I hear you about getting busy on those double brew days!!

Sure feels good when you look at all that beer you brewed though!
So how do you go about getting the mash water and grain from one to the other?
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This is going to sound like a pain in the _ _ _.

I use about a pot with a handle. I know, I know, I know..what a pain you are thinking. About 10 scoops for 30 pounds of mash. The whole thing is done at waist level, 3 inches from keg to keg and at arms length. Scooping is done in 2-4 minutes then the mash rests for 5 before recirc.

It really is not that bad. When both keggles were on burners on the ground....that really was a pain!

All for the beer!
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I think you're right. A lot of guys going with the Brutus designs.
Im seriously considering doing a scaled up Brutus for 20 gallon batches.
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This is going to sound like a pain in the _ _ _.

I use about a pot with a handle. I know, I know, I know..what a pain you are thinking. About 10 scoops for 30 pounds of mash. The whole thing is done at waist level, 3 inches from keg to keg and at arms length. Scooping is done in 2-4 minutes then the mash rests for 5 before recirc.

It really is not that bad. When both keggles were on burners on the ground....that really was a pain!

All for the beer!
See, I think the beauty of a stand is that you don't have to do any of that. Everything's where's it's supposed to be, and you don't have to do the lifting, scooping, etc. (with the possible exception of dumping the MLT). Take some time and work through the difference in what I suggested. I think it would make your brew days that much nicer. There's no way I'd want to scoop two different mashes (plus the dumps) if I didn't have to.

BTW, I've got a false bottom on mine, and it really doesn't "get in the way". It just sits there below the grain.
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