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Old 01-03-2012, 05:58 AM   #1
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I just have to post this on here. If you are using pumps on a brew stand buy the quick disconnects the first time. I recently built a Brutus clone and thought I would save $100-$200 by using garden hose fittings. After my fifth brew on the stand, and multiple sets of busted knuckles and cuts to the palms, I realized that instead of saving money I now have 100 worth of extra garden hose fittings. Thankfully my brother (who helped build the stand) offset most of the quick disconnect costs as a Christmas present. So for anyone out there building a Brutus or whatever, get the quick disconnects the first time.

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Old 01-03-2012, 06:31 AM   #2
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Can you return them?

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Old 01-03-2012, 01:26 PM   #3
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Proly not, I have used them with my stand 4 times and you can tell they have been used. They are gonna end up in my random hardware drawer in the garage. Who knows I may use them for something in the distant future.

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Where are you spending $100+ on quick disconnects? Both BrewHardware.com and BargainFittings.com have stainless 1/2" camlocks/quick disconnects for $4-$7 each.

That's around $70 plus shipping for 12 fittings for the typical In/Out on each vessel in a three-vessel set up and 2 for the pump (add 2 more for each pump). So, maybe $100 for three vessels and three pumps?

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Old 01-03-2012, 05:17 PM   #5
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Where are you spending $100+ on quick disconnects?[...]
Man, that's easy: many folks spend a lot of money on these babies.

At $26 a mated pair - plus whatever transition pieces one might want to add - you could go flying well past $300 on 3 vessel/2 pump, "recirculating pretty much everything" system...

Cheers!

(ftr: I went totally cam lock...)
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:25 PM   #6
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Man, that's easy: many folks spend a lot of money on these babies.

At $26 a mated pair - plus whatever transition pieces one might want to add - you could go flying well past $300 on 3 vessel/2 pump, "recirculating pretty much everything" system...

Cheers!

(ftr: I went totally cam lock...)

just noticed that the BargainFittings QD's are chrome plated not stainless...I stand corrected.



I will probably go with CamLocks (whenever I build mine), but are they a bit more leaky if you are not careful with keeping the open end up?
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:34 PM   #7
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just noticed that the BargainFittings QD's are chrome plated not stainless...I stand corrected.



I will probably go with CamLocks (whenever I build mine), but are they a bit more leaky if you are not careful with keeping the open end up?
Yup, if you drop a full hose there's going to be some spillage. An open hole is an open hole. A fixture to hang hose ends is a handy feature on a brew sculpture.

Otoh, a full-flow cam lock setup will probably make for happier beer pumps. Those fancy 1/2" QDs have a 3/8" ID constriction within...

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Those fancy 1/2" QDs have a 3/8" ID constriction within...
if you have 1/2" INSIDE diameter hose, the OUTSIDE diameter of the barb is 1/2". obviously the barb has to have some sort of thickness to it, so that is where the 3/8" restriction comes from.

some people use a drill to open up the center hole a little more; there is plenty of material there. you can also forego hose barb QDs and instead get camlock-to-MNPT fittings, which have a full port center hole, and force a silicone hose over the threads. it will stretch. this will not work with vinyl, thin walled, or other non-stretchy tubing.

also if you are buying camlocks, buy from the people all those other etailers are buying from- the manufacturer, proflow dynamics
http://store.proflowdynamics.com/mod...rs-_C12074.cfm
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if you have 1/2" INSIDE diameter hose, the OUTSIDE diameter of the barb is 1/2". obviously the barb has to have some sort of thickness to it, so that is where the 3/8" restriction comes from.
Calm down, I wasn't referring to the cam lock QD wrt the 3/8" restriction - I was referring to the pricey part shown in the Morebeer link. You're not going to be widening out the inside of that coupler.

fwiw, my cam lock system is 1/2" full-flow, no hose barbs used anywhere...

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Old 01-03-2012, 09:33 PM   #10
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also if you are buying camlocks, buy from the people all those other etailers are buying from- the manufacturer, proflow dynamics
316 Stainless Steel Cam and Groove Couplings for Homebrewers
Pretty sure proflow dynamics is not actually making them either. I would assume like everything else these days they are made in China.

This is based on a conversation I had when they called me after they mistakenly shipped me the wrong parts. They actually caught it on their end before I ever received the package.

They mentioned they had a problem with some of the aluminum camlocks not locking together since they recently switched to a new manufacturer but there was no problem with the stainless.

By the way just as an off topic side note, Proflow has great customer service.
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