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Old 03-17-2009, 05:10 PM   #141
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Let's keep it on topic and refrain from excessive personal commentary.
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Old 03-17-2009, 05:23 PM   #142
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You appear to be grossly overestimating the utility of epoxy for your application. Re-engineer it so that you don't have to use so much glue...or so many bottles, for that matter.
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This is just plain dangerous. Please find a mechanical means of sealing your pressure vessels instead of relying on friction and glued up pieces of wood.
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Once again, EPOXY IS NOT THE SOLUTION!!! Simply using more/better glue on an inferior design is not the answer. No pressure fitting is ever just glued onto the outside of its housing. Find a mechanical means of securing it, using the pressure to compress the seal.
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No, like a fitting that isn't simply tubing jammed/glued into a plastic cap.
1) Yuri is the technical expert - IMO, unless you address his points this thread has little diy value.

2) Others, who's posts may have been removed, offered salient points regarding making this an economical enterprise. If you continue to disregard these points, IMO, this thread has little utility for others.

3) Doing 1 and 2 begins to make you a community outsider and I begin to wonder what kind of ego exercise this is. This is a community based upon sharing useful information. i have to ask where this all fits in.
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Old 03-18-2009, 03:00 PM   #143
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Every pet bottle invention I have seen has used some type of fitting and not glue or epoxy, here take a look.

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Old 03-18-2009, 03:30 PM   #144
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If you're going to link multiple PET bottles together, I'd recommend connecting them in series. In your 3D models you have the bottles in parallel. Due to the pressure drop caused by the lines the bottles will empty at different rates while in a parallel connection. Once the first bottles empties it will blow CO2 through the rest of the lines and you will not be able to empty the rest of the bottles. The same would happen if the bottles are not all filled to the exact same level.

Using the series arrangement you will need to apply higher CO2 pressure to the system to push beer through all of that tubing. This will make your challenge of sealing the lids even more difficult.

I still don't understand why you don't want to use the 5L kegs? They're pretty much free, and would be MUCH easier to use.
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I still don't understand why you don't want to use the 5L kegs? They're pretty much free, and would be MUCH easier to use.
I suppose you're right. This has been a lot of nonsense just to make some stupid thing that will probably break halfway through the second time I try to use it. Anyone from san antonio know a place that sells coors light in mini-kegs? This is the only beer besides my homebrew that the wifey and I drink...I'll be like "look honey, your favorite beer, in a reusable keg that I already have a co2 tank and regulator for!"
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Old 03-19-2009, 03:36 AM   #146
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I say see it through.
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maybe i'll start a poll
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If nothing else, you are trying to pioneer a new idea. Who knows, in it's fifteenth incarnation you might just come up with something that will really, truly work well and be inexpensively make from junk you can find at home. When and if that happens, it could provide a steppingstone for those who can't afford to go straight to kegging.
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If nothing else, you are trying to pioneer a new idea. Who knows, in it's fifteenth incarnation you might just come up with something that will really, truly work well and be inexpensively make from junk you can find at home. When and if that happens, it could provide a steppingstone for those who can't afford to go straight to kegging.
But is it safe? I think that has been the main crux of this.

The cost of kegging is not all that expensive. A Regulator, a few Kegs, and a party tap. Not much dough.

One doesn't need a 4 tap kegerator when just starting out. A few kegs can fit in a spare fridge with the regulator & party tap.
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I've got a prototype sitting at 25psi right now. No special glues/epoxies or expensive gadgets required. I don't see or hear any leaks, I'll be doing an underwater test in a bit to be sure. If it holds psi I'll post the build plans. Total cost for this one was about $1, plus the tools required to build it, and the co2 tank, regulator, and tap.
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