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Old 02-07-2010, 07:57 PM   #411
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I have never heard that commercial breweries can't give away beer. In fact, I know of several in the area that routinely give it away at tours, tastings, parties, etc.. Perhaps there's a state law in Ohio that prohibits it? Definitely no such law in North Carolina.

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Old 02-07-2010, 10:07 PM   #412
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I think it's a state/local law that may prohibit giving away samples. I know some breweries charge a tasting fee, just as wineries do.

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Old 02-07-2010, 10:41 PM   #413
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I have never heard that commercial breweries can't give away beer. In fact, I know of several in the area that routinely give it away at tours, tastings, parties, etc.. Perhaps there's a state law in Ohio that prohibits it? Definitely no such law in North Carolina.
I give sample bottles away as a way to get business. If I had to charge a bar to taste my beer they would never buy it. If a customer comes into the shop I have to charge for tasters. Even if I only charge $.10, it's still a charge.
If I have a bad batch I still have to log it as a business brew but I also get to write it off as dumped. Any beer that leaves my brewery to be sold or as sold, gets taxed. I also have to list beer that is used for employee use.
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:38 AM   #414
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[QUOTE=HBHoss;1868120]I give sample bottles away as a way to get business.

Even if I only charge $.10, it's still a charge.

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I also have to list beer that is used for employee use.
You charge that price of $.10 they'll come hell i'll come from the bay area, Alameda.

Now that sucks, this should be considered as spillage or normal with the business. The winery in Alameda we know the owner that has sold the business, before this we would stop by with their workers when they had their afternoon break. This would be 4-5 bottles of wine for all coffee or smoke break, wrote off as spillage or broken bottles. A rather loose but told a nornal thing in the wine business. I was thinking the Feds would want every bottle accounted for tax purposes.
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:53 PM   #416
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I give sample bottles away as a way to get business.

Even if I only charge $.10, it's still a charge.

You charge that price of $.10 they'll come hell i'll come from the bay area, Alameda.

Now that sucks, this should be considered as spillage or normal with the business. The winery in Alameda we know the owner that has sold the business, before this we would stop by with their workers when they had their afternoon break. This would be 4-5 bottles of wine for all coffee or smoke break, wrote off as spillage or broken bottles. A rather loose but told a nornal thing in the wine business. I was thinking the Feds would want every bottle accounted for tax purposes.
I don't charge $.10 but I could. I was at a BevMo awhile back and the Sierra Nevada rep was there giving tasters of some of their beers and he charged $.25 each because he had to. Can't give away tasters publicly.
The wine lobby is much stronger and older than the beer lobby. Winers get away with a lot more than brew people can. None of the health codes that I had to go through to open the shop applied to my brother's wine tasting.
They do want every beer bottle/keg accounted for because they want the tax revenue.
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Old 02-08-2010, 04:00 PM   #417
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Here's a couple of pics of the shop.

Not much has changed but this is a shot from across the street.
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This shows where I'll be in relation to my brother who will be to the left of the picture and another person selling almond rocka will be at the end.
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Your CA Type 23 License allows you to give samples out for free on the brewery premises, like a tasting room and you can provide samples to people who hold liquor licenses for the purpose of resale (ie. bar owners, etc). Beyond that, though, the only time giving beer to an actual consumer is permitted is at festivals, etc. and that's generally only because the attendees have paid an admission fee.

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Your CA Type 23 License allows you to give samples out for free on the brewery premises, like a tasting room and you can provide samples to people who hold liquor licenses for the purpose of resale (ie. bar owners, etc). Beyond that, though, the only time giving beer to an actual consumer is permitted is at festivals, etc. and that's generally only because the attendees have paid an admission fee.
Thanks, that makes sense. At the Tasting I did, the customers paid $25 at the door for a glass to go around to each beer vendor and sample their beer. They also got food too. I wasn't paid for the beer except in advertising.
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This is such bull sh!t! Now I'm being told that I owe $3.00 for some reason. If this is what has been holding things up then why wasn't I told this a long time ago? What total wankers!!!!

EDIT: Here's the message I got from the ABC: "There is a note in the system stating you owe $3.00. Please send a check
for $3.00."

Doesn't tell me who to send it to, where to send it or why I wasn't told about it.

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