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**HBHoss** · 09-30-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BeerguyNC61

Bummer you closed your tasting room!
Let me know when if you start taking mail orders!

If you ever make it out to Yosemite, give me a call and we can make some sort of arrangement to do a tasting at the brewery. My number's on the facebook page.

ChandlerBang · 10-01-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HBHoss

I got those awhile ago. So far I've only completed the fittings on one of them but I have all the fittings. I just want to be sure where to put the upper outlet so I don't waste any brew but also don't get a lot of yeast in it.

Can't you run off the yeast til you get to clean beer if it's too low? I don't have any experience with conicals...

**tomhen** · 10-01-2012, 05:33 PM

Can you do a tasting room where people can buy by the pint? That's the best way to create cash flow. How about cask ale? Here is a link on a video I did on how we are making it.

YouTube

Cheers,
Tom

**HBHoss** · 10-01-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChandlerBang

Can't you run off the yeast til you get to clean beer if it's too low? I don't have any experience with conicals...

Yes, you can run the yeast off using the bottom fitting, which I do before clearing the top fitting. I think where I placed it is going to work for me so I'll finish the other conicals soon.

**HBHoss** · 10-01-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tomhen

Can you do a tasting room where people can buy by the pint? That's the best way to create cash flow. How about cask ale? Here is a link on a video I did on how we are making it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wEfDNpvkog
Cheers,
Tom

Up until recently I didn't have the production to support buying by the pint plus the state told me I wasn't allowed to have tables and chairs based on the type 23 license that I have. People tend to want to sit down to enjoy a pint. Now that I've finally ramped up production I could handle selling pints but that doesn't get me around the no tables and chairs thing. Besides, the tasting room just wasn't paying for itself.
EDIT: You could sell pint sized "Tasters" since in Calif. they don't specify the amount of a taster.

**fall-line** · 10-01-2012, 09:17 PM

Very inspirational. Thank you for sharing your experiences taking your brewing to the next level.. and the next yet again.

Rivenin · 10-03-2012, 05:32 PM

the more i see this, the more i want to drive down and say hey, but it's 13 hours away. any cheap hotels and stuff near by? it'd be tempting to plan the trip next year though! i'd love to get out and do some road tripping.

**HBHoss** · 10-03-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivenin

the more i see this, the more i want to drive down and say hey, but it's 13 hours away. any cheap hotels and stuff near by? it'd be tempting to plan the trip next year though! i'd love to get out and do some road tripping.

Now that we're into the "off-season", there's probably some good deals at any of the local hotels and motels.

Phunhog · 10-04-2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by HBHoss

Up until recently I didn't have the production to support buying by the pint plus the state told me I wasn't allowed to have tables and chairs based on the type 23 license that I have. People tend to want to sit down to enjoy a pint. Now that I've finally ramped up production I could handle selling pints but that doesn't get me around the no tables and chairs thing. Besides, the tasting room just wasn't paying for itself.
EDIT: You could sell pint sized "Tasters" since in Calif. they don't specify the amount of a taster.

Hey Hoss,
Are you sure about the "no tables and chairs" restriction? I know of plenty of small breweries in CA that are only a tasting room. They have tables and chairs. These are NOT brewpubs, just tasting rooms. You might want to talk to the CA Small Brewers Assoc. about that one.

**HBHoss** · 10-04-2012, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Phunhog

Hey Hoss,
Are you sure about the "no tables and chairs" restriction? I know of plenty of small breweries in CA that are only a tasting room. They have tables and chairs. These are NOT brewpubs, just tasting rooms. You might want to talk to the CA Small Brewers Assoc. about that one.

I have tried to get the ABC to answer that question but they haven't returned my calls. I did find an interview with Hess Brewing regarding tasting rooms and this was his reply: "
I don't know if I'm going to get in trouble saying this, but is a tasting room like a bar?

HESS: It is similar to a bar, but there are a few caveats. We don't have any chairs. So you can't sit down. Can't have any table cams. So out goes the pool and the darts. But other than that, it's similar."

Now, he doesn't say it's against the ABC regulations but it sounds similar to what I've heard from the ABC. One person said it was a county regulation and that it's possible I can have tables and chairs. I need to pin the ABC down with a definitive answer to this. It's almost like it's a gray area that the ABC doesn't want to have to police and they just let it go until someone complains or something.