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Old 05-15-2008, 02:31 PM   #1
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Default Hows this welder for the DIY garage mech.

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200318739_200318739

For building a Brutus 10? Perhaps??
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Old 05-15-2008, 02:35 PM   #2
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Or this

http://store.weldingdepot.com/cgi/weldingdepot/WE6523.html?id=zcHUr4iG

I like the flux core wire... no tanks... I dont have room or a desire for shielding gas. Id also prefer wire to stick/arc welding.

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Old 05-15-2008, 02:54 PM   #3
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I'd love to have one of those. I'll let the "real" welders in the crowd speak the truth, but I think you'd be happy with those specs for most anything you'd want to do.

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I loved how my Lincoln Handy MIG ran on flux core wire.... Until I tried it with gas! For lots of things you dont need gas, but I wanted the cleanest welds for my autobody restoration. The difference is huge. That said, for general garage work, flux core is not abs. necessary. I can't speak for that welder, as I don't know their quality, but most people say Lincoln is good - Miller even better.

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Flux core is great, but gas shielded is so much better. What I would insist on is that it is upgradeable to gas or you will have to buy another later.

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Old 05-15-2008, 04:09 PM   #6
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For simple tasks welding with no gas is fine. But I guarantee if you ran that hobart with gas and without before buying you would get the gas. It makes for a much smoother weld, and if your just learning you will weld better faster. I used to have a small hobart that worked great for small projects. Go for it. Welding is simple

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Old 05-15-2008, 04:16 PM   #7
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I have a small gas mig that I bought 20 years ago. I can't believe how useful the thing is, especially if you are onto cars. My friend just bought a small harbor freight mig that uses the flux wire. He used to borrow mine alot so he has experience with both, he definately likes the gas better. I think for a novice the gas is the way to go.

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gas is a million times better than flux core. and, don't fool around with the clarke, buy the hobart, it's a much better machine. Lincoln, miller and hobart are pretty much the only decent welders made today.

buy the largest (highest amp) and highest duty cycle machine you can afford. That hobart (like many 120v welders) is a 20% duty cycle machine, max of 90 amps.

It's useful for light welding and repair, and also very portable & good because you can run it off of household current.

But if you have a dryer circuit, you can buy a 240 volt single phase machine which can have a much higher duty cycle (my machine is 100% duty cycle, FWIW) and much higher amps (200 or more)

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The simple answer to your question is yes, those welders will work for what you are looking at. Of the two, I'd also go with the Hobart. Gas is nice but does not stop you from building a Brutus clone.

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aside form the mig/tig flux-core/gas debate, I have a cheap mig welder that works well for simple stuff but I also have a oxy-acetylene brazing setup and for dealing with the small and difficult stuff (stainless, copper, and other brewing type things) it offers even more control and versatility than a good tig setup.

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