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ApolloSpeed 04-01-2009 02:18 AM

Gonna build an Electric Boiler...how to control?
 
I'm gonna get supplies to build an electric boiler this weekend.....it is wayyy to hard to boil 6.5 gallons on my stovetop. And I don't really wanna go propane. I can run an extra 240 outlet off my breakerbox... so

I think I'm gonna buy one of these 4500 or 5500 watt 240v elements
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Drill a hole into my AHB Economy 7 gallon SS brewpot, and install that badboy.


My question is, I don't really wanna spend alot of money on a high dollar temp controller. So lets rule that out.
BUT, do I need some sorta potentiometer or rheostat to control it?

The Pol 04-01-2009 02:21 AM

You will need something to control it...

I researched many different things while building mine, and could not get away from the PID and SSR combo. A rheostat for that much amperage/wattage is going to cost you.

HillbillyDeluxe 04-01-2009 02:36 AM

look into honeywell, they have some great burner controllers at a resonable price. If your going electric you gotta do GFI, fuses/breakers, and like apol said you gottta control it. You could try to fin an Rstat but it aint cheap. A POT on the otherhand, well for that kinda amperage is just not gonna happen on any budget (unless your an AIG exec). Look at commercial oven parts also.

HillbillyDeluxe 04-01-2009 02:40 AM

OH yeah, i forgot. I recommend to everybody, (Get a damn turkey fryer and use it with your stainless brewpot). I get like 12 batches out of a tank. I use a CO3(carbon monoxide) detector and have no problems. Electric is just not cost effective unless your brewing more than 10 batches a month(if you are you are a god!)

The Pol 04-01-2009 02:44 AM

There is nothing cost effective about brewing in my mind. Electric is cheaper to operate than propane... but costs you to build. I have less $$ into my rig than many do in thier gas heated rigs...

A 5500 watt rheostat, if they exist, would be hundreds of dollars and HUGE.

ApolloSpeed 04-01-2009 03:21 AM

so whats the cheapest way out for a controller or rheostat?

Can you give me a link to something?

wilserbrewer 04-01-2009 03:26 AM

Pol,

Would it be possible to not use a controller and just let the element run at 100% if it was sized properly...just guessing here, say 3500w for a 6 - 6.5 gallon boil?

I realize this will be kind of crude and take a bit longer to reach boil.

Mike

The Pol 04-01-2009 03:27 AM

PID $45
SSR $20
Heat sink $20

$85 is about as cheap as you are going to get controlling that much power... 240VAC at 23 amps and 5500W is not a trivial ammount of power, it takes some serious equipment.

The Pol 04-01-2009 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilserbrewer (Post 1232539)
Pol,

Would it be possible to not use a controller and just let the element run at 100% if it was sized properly...just guessing here, say 3500w for a 6 - 6.5 gallon boil?

I realize this will be kind of crude and take a bit longer to reach boil.

Mike


3500W is sized about right for a 6.5-7.5 gallopn boil. I run my 5500W element at 3500W to maintain the boil, after I get it boiling. You CAN do it that way, crude, but doable.

wilserbrewer 04-01-2009 03:32 AM

Thanks Pol,

While I admire your work and am a bit jealous, not all of us are cut out for such high tech rigs.


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