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Old 09-11-2011, 03:38 PM   #11
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sounds like you are looking for a premix soda dispenser. something like this

http://www.chicompany.net/index.php?...oducts_id=1719

a premix dispenser works just like a jockey box but has it's own refrigeration system built-in so no ice is needed. the soda taps on the units are usually plastic, but work just fine for beer.
He didn't want to use electricity, plus at 11.8 amps use would be 3 times the use of a freezer
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Old 09-11-2011, 03:58 PM   #12
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I've been looking into kegerators lately but I have two problems with them. The only space I have for one is in my basement but I don't want to run down there every time I want to have a beer. And, it seems like an awful waste of energy to keep my kegs refrigerated 24/7.

So I was thinking what I really needed was a fridge-less beer chiller, something like a tankless water heater, only for cooling liquid rather than heating it. It would be small so could mount it anywhere I want to put the tap and run a line down to the kegs in the basement. It would also be a ton more energy efficient if it only cooled the beer as I poured it.

Does anybody know if anybody has tried to make something like this? It does not seem like it would be all that difficult, but I'm wondering if there would be any drawbacks to chilling beer this way or if anybody has any ideas about how I would go about building one?
What you would save on energy use you would spend on co2, cold liquids carbonate better then warm, if you check around freezers use about 1.2-4.2 amps the lower the amps the cheaper it is to run. Volts x Amps= Watts so 110 volts at 3 amps =330 watts. Now take that times Hours times days divided by 1000. 330x24x365=2890.80 so roughly 3kw. so check your electric bill and see what you pay per Kw, Mine is .08 per so less then $40 a year for cold beer SUPER CHEAP IN MINE WORLD.
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Old 12-28-2012, 05:39 PM   #13
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This is a pretty old post so I dont think I am hi-jacking it or anything. But I have been conserding something like this for a Fermenter cooler. The idea would be to rip apart an AC window unit and remove the cold coils and in their place put in a plate chiller. The plate chiller would have glycol pumped and small cooler for a resevior. Then all you have to do is monitor the Fermentor temp and when you need cooling kick on the compressor(using a PID loop). The same thought could be applied to the warm beer but you would probably have to let the unit run for 5 or 10 mins to cool down first. I think you are better off bottling or keeping the freezer. Here is a schematic from Mueller that kind of shows what I mean. The shown Bakery mixer would be the frementer that would have copper or stainless coils brazed to the outside of it and a loop back to the cold water storage(the small cooler in my case). I am hopefully going to build the chiller this summer and hopefully after ripping out most of the guts from the AC unit, and adding my stuff back in it will be no bigger than it was before.

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Thanks for all the replies. I think I'll end up going with a keeper solution similar to what this guy did: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f16/bost...r-taps-267647/ where there are insulated lines going from the keezer to my taps upstairs.

I'm still a little surprised that that a true instant cooling solution, one that does not require 24/7 refrigeration of some sort, has not been done. I mean, I run my hot boiling hot wort through a plate chiller and can cool it down to room temp at a flow rate much faster than a tap would require. I'm thinking if I took that same plate chiller and ransom refrigerant through it, it would do a nice job ( of course I'm ignoring the safety issues of running freon through a plate chiller ).

Anyhow, it gave me a lot to think about in the mean time.
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