electric hlt

pen25 · 05-13-2009, 10:39 PM

I am planning an electric hlt using a 5 gallon coleman cooler. how long would it take for 70* water to say 180 with a 2kw 110volt element? i have looked and i had seen several calculations but i cant get my head around the actual #'s

i can do 220 but if i can get away with a 110 and it take a little longer im ok.

say i want to do the creme of 3 crops and do the 10 gallon batch. i am thinking it should be fine in my 48qt cooler im going to convert to a mash tun.

since its 17 lbs of grain i figure 1.5qt a lb of strike water for 6.5 gallon of water. mash for 90 min. then use the 5 gallon e-hlt to heat the sparge water.

would this 2kw element allow me to be able to bring up to temp the water in that 90 min?

HomebrewJeff · 05-13-2009, 10:46 PM

Here is a good calculator to use: http://suburb.semo.net/jet1024/Electric%20Heat.xls

It looks like around 40-45 minutes to heat up a full 5 gallons, less time if you are heating up less water.

pen25 · 05-13-2009, 10:53 PM

awesome. thank you very much

The Pol · 05-13-2009, 11:46 PM

No one mentioned this, so I will. How is a 5 gallon cooler going to hold enough sparge water for a 10 gallon batch??? You will have 6.38 gallons in the MASH, the grain ABSORBS 2.0 gallons... so you need another 6.75 gallons to brew a 10 gallon batch, if you ONLY boil off 1 gallon.

YOU NEED to mash in at 2qt/pound... that is 8.5 gallons and 9.86 gallons of MASH. THEN you will still need 4.5 gallons of sparge water.... which I will tell you is NOT much considering you are sparging 17 POUNDS of grain.

I used to brew in 5 gallon coolers.

My 5 gallon HLT was small...

Id consider getting a 10 gallon cooler or so and converting it. 5 gallons is pretty darned tight. And if you are going to the trouble of making it electric, might as well make it user friendly IMHO

You can heat 5 gallons, with 2000W, from 70-170 in 40 minutes flat. But how is a 5 gallon cooler going to work on a 10 gallon batch??

pen25 · 05-14-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pol

No one mentioned this, so I will. How is a 5 gallon cooler going to hold enough sparge water for a 10 gallon batch??? You will have 6.38 gallons in the MASH, the grain ABSORBS 2.0 gallons... so you need another 6.75 gallons to brew a 10 gallon batch, if you ONLY boil off 1 gallon.

YOU NEED to mash in at 2qt/pound... that is 8.5 gallons and 9.86 gallons of MASH. THEN you will still need 4.5 gallons of sparge water.... which I will tell you is NOT much considering you are sparging 17 POUNDS of grain.

I used to brew in 5 gallon coolers.

My 5 gallon HLT was small...

Id consider getting a 10 gallon cooler or so and converting it. 5 gallons is pretty darned tight. And if you are going to the trouble of making it electric, might as well make it user friendly IMHO

You can heat 5 gallons, with 2000W, from 70-170 in 40 minutes flat. But how is a 5 gallon cooler going to work on a 10 gallon batch??

this is why i love the site. well looks like the 5 gallon cooler is going to have to just pull duty as a cooler for the summer
and ill just have to go buy a 10 gallon cooler and consider upping the wattage. guess i have to brew on the side of the hosue close to the garage outlet ;-) thx Pol

**wilserbrewer** · 05-14-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pen25

...ill just have to go buy a 10 gallon cooler and consider upping the wattage. guess i have to brew on the side of the hosue close to the garage outlet ;-) thx Pol

2000w will power a 10 gal HLT. Sure it won't heat as fast as a larger element, but if you plan ahead, you can use that time for other things. More power is fine, but not required IMO.

The Pol · 05-14-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wilserbrewer

2000w will power a 10 gal HLT. Sure it won't heat as fast as a larger element, but if you plan ahead, you can use that time for other things. More power is fine, but not required IMO.

+1

Save the hassle... get a 120VAC 2000W element and use it. It will give you 1.3F/minute rise with 10 gallons in the HLT. So, you are looking at 77 minutes to heat that water. NOT BAD, and it will save you from running 240VAC and messing with how to control it.

pen25 · 05-14-2009, 07:23 PM

thx guys makes sense.

**IrregularPulse** · 05-14-2009, 08:00 PM

So lets run this scenario.
10G batch
total water need ~15G
start heating 10G to 180. drain off 6G to mash at ~1.25q/lb for a 19lb grain bill
We now have 4 Gallon left in HLT at 180. Now we add our remaining 5G of water at room temp to the 4G left in the hlt at 180* to give us the rest of our sparge water to get ~13G into the BK assuming 2G loss to mash.
How long will it take the remaining 5G at room temp added to the 4G at 180 to come back up to 180*? Don't need exact numbers just basically a "Yes or No", will it be less than 60 minutes with a 120Vac 2200w element? If yes then I won't mess with a 220Vac line for just an eHlt. Maybe if I ever go to an eBK in the future. It'd be nce to stay 110 off a normal breaker if it's not going to cause much trouble and time wasted. I'd like to bring my brew days down to 4-4.5 hours instead of the current 6 (no dedicated HLT)

The Pol · 05-14-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by IrregularPulse

So lets run this scenario.
10G batch
total water need ~15G
start heating 10G to 180. drain off 6G to mash at ~1.25q/lb for a 19lb grain bill
We now have 4 Gallon left in HLT at 180. Now we add our remaining 5G of water to bring us up to the rest of our sparge water to get ~13G into the BK assuming 2G loss to mash.
How long will it take the remaining 5G at room temp added to the 4G at180 to come back up to 180*? Don't need exact numbers just basically a Yes or no will it be less than 60 minutes with a 120Vac element? If yes that I won't mess with a 220 line for just an eHlt.

This is what my software calculates for my HERMS... I can get you exact #s... hang on.