New Giveaway - Wort Monster Conical Fermenter!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > DIY Projects > Electric heatstick question




Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-02-2009, 01:42 PM   #1
zplug123
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 34
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default Electric heatstick question

I've only got 15 amp GFCI-protected outlets in my building and the local hardware store has water heating elements that range from 1500v to 4500v. If 1500v is all that a 15 amp outlet can handle, how many heatsticks should I build if I make 5-6 gallon batches of all-grain?

I saw that the Cedarcreek website says that two 2000v heatsticks can bring water to boiling in 37 minutes, so should I expect to make three or four to attain equal if not faster results?



__________________
zplug123 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-02-2009, 01:50 PM   #2
The Pol
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 11,616
Liked 49 Times on 46 Posts

Default

You would need at LEAST 2, preferrably 3... 1500W elements

Also, remember that you will need them all on SEPARATE CIRCUITS, not just separate outlets.

To boil 6 gallons, I need 65% out of my 5500W element, which is 3,575W of power



__________________
The Pol is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-02-2009, 02:05 PM   #3
zplug123
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 34
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

Oh darn...and I thought I almost had it figured out. I'm no electrical expert, so I'm not aware of how to find out which outlets are separate circuits. Does this mean I'd have to plug each one in different rooms (kitchen/living room/bathroom) to avoid tripping the circuit?

__________________
zplug123 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-02-2009, 02:33 PM   #4
chuggs
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Jupiter, FL
Posts: 323
Liked 9 Times on 8 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zplug123 View Post
Oh darn...and I thought I almost had it figured out. I'm no electrical expert, so I'm not aware of how to find out which outlets are separate circuits. Does this mean I'd have to plug each one in different rooms (kitchen/living room/bathroom) to avoid tripping the circuit?
If you've got a helper...plug a light into the outlet closest to your brewing area. Go to your panel...make sure you're not standing in a puddle of water, preferably wearing some rubber sole shoes...and trip each 20a (15a in some homes) breakers one at a time, reseting each one as you go until your helper screams STOP when the light goes out. Leave that one breaker open temporariily...Now take the lamp and plug it into other outlets near your brewing area until you find one that works... If it works...it's on a separate ciruit.

Now go reset the breaker you left open before everything in your freezer melts...
__________________

Last edited by chuggs; 09-02-2009 at 02:35 PM.
chuggs is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-02-2009, 03:00 PM   #5
zplug123
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 34
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

Actually the brewing area goes on outside in the barbecue area. We have an outdoor island with four outlets, each outlet has four slots. So I'll try your breaker idea

__________________
zplug123 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-02-2009, 03:07 PM   #6
The Pol
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 11,616
Liked 49 Times on 46 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zplug123 View Post
Actually the brewing area goes on outside in the barbecue area. We have an outdoor island with four outlets, each outlet has four slots. So I'll try your breaker idea
More than likely that island is all on one circuit...
__________________
The Pol is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-02-2009, 03:15 PM   #7
AnOldUR
fer-men-TAY-shuhn
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
AnOldUR's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,753
Liked 454 Times on 330 Posts
Likes Given: 357

Default

If you go with an extension cord to one of your house outlets, make sure it's a minimum of 14 gauge, preferably 12 if it's a long run.

__________________
Sent from my POS computer because I refuse to own a smartphone!
AnOldUR is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-02-2009, 03:49 PM   #8
HarkinBanks
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Wayne, PA
Posts: 681
Liked 7 Times on 7 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnOldUR View Post
If you go with an extension cord to one of your house outlets, make sure it's a minimum of 14 gauge, preferably 12 if it's a long run.
Very good advice, use 14 gauge for all wiring of heatsticks and power cords. I used 16 gauge in testing and found it got hot.
__________________
Proud member of the CB20 club
Final Int-E-gration 120v (CB20 HERMS Batch or BIAB)

6th Street Brewing Company
HarkinBanks is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-02-2009, 04:18 PM   #9
Ohio-Ed
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Ohio-Ed's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,074
Liked 18 Times on 17 Posts

Default

Also, if you run an extension cord from inside the house, make sure it is plugged into a GFCI protected outlet OR use an inline GFCI. You know... that whole water and electric thing.

__________________
Ohio-Ed is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-02-2009, 04:33 PM   #10
HarkinBanks
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Wayne, PA
Posts: 681
Liked 7 Times on 7 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ohio-Ed View Post
Also, if you run an extension cord from inside the house, make sure it is plugged into a GFCI protected outlet OR use an inline GFCI. You know... that whole water and electric thing.
More great advice, use GFCIs anywhere you can with this setup. I use them in my control box for the PID and then plug that power cord into a GFCI outlet.


__________________
Proud member of the CB20 club
Final Int-E-gration 120v (CB20 HERMS Batch or BIAB)

6th Street Brewing Company
HarkinBanks is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Parts for electric heatstick nebben DIY Projects 7 06-09-2009 01:41 AM
Another Electric HLT Question... Beer_Maker DIY Projects 4 03-22-2009 05:59 PM
another electric HLT question kcinpdx Equipment/Sanitation 3 01-29-2009 08:07 PM
Electric Heatstick and a Grain Bag? Cpt_Kirks DIY Projects 7 12-18-2008 06:15 PM
Please keep me from electrocuting myself(heatstick question). benko DIY Projects 16 12-10-2008 07:14 PM



Newest Threads