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Old 10-18-2010, 05:16 PM   #21
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Not that I know of with copper types.
For the small scale your building a fridge would be way
cheaper than the conical wrap with remote chiller, for larger
fermenters yes, JMO. hats off you have shop access equipment
and materials. HVAC, this be you blow or suck? JK! PS your HBT PM
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Old 10-18-2010, 05:22 PM   #22
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Hebrews - its a glycol jacket you would be making. It goes around your fermenter. Google it or search for it here. I have seen someone make glycol jacket out of soft copper pipes attached to a sankey keg that they used as a fermenter. The glycol runs through the copper pipe, the copper pipe is outside the fermenter, and the fermenter is made of metal. There is a glycol loop running from a unit that chills the glycol down after it passes thru the jackets to cool the fermenters. Its going to be expensive.

If you are doing 10 gal batches I think you are crazy for even thinking about any of this.

But there are plenty of things I think are crazy on this forum.

Yes, you can spend tons of money, or you can spend as little as possible. The goal is to make good beer. Neither one of those options limits your possibilities to make good beer (but they do limit your ability to make a lot of good beer).



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Old 10-18-2010, 05:29 PM   #23
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i'm not worried about making a lot of beer. I'm not selling yet. i need to get good before i can sell it. I figure if i start small, get it down, then i can move on to better more perfected beer. from there i can start selling and get bigger.

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Old 10-18-2010, 05:31 PM   #24
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Not that I know of with copper types.
For the small scale your building a fridge would be way
cheaper than the conical wrap with remote chiller, for larger
fermenters yes, JMO. hats off you have shop access equipment
and materials. HVAC, this be you blow or suck? JK! PS your HBT PM
is full.
I'm actually a draftsman. I'm starting to get the oppertunity to learn from my PE and assist in design. I'll whip up some drawings in the next couple days and post 'em.

I emptied my PM inbox...(only 5 messages is obnoxious)
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Old 10-18-2010, 05:37 PM   #25
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Here is a commercially available one
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Old 10-18-2010, 05:54 PM   #26
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Holy Smokes! Let of my arm! There's got to be an easier...and cheaper way. And less space consuming than a fridgerator. Ok, so the question is what's the target temp? and what's the easiest way to get it there?

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Ok, so the question is what's the target temp? and what's the easiest way to get it there?
I have to ask if you have ever brewed a batch of beer before?
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Old 10-18-2010, 06:06 PM   #28
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yes. i'm on my second now. but....its mr. beer. it was a hand-me-down with no directions. The directions i got said between 70-75 degrees in a dark space. Is that truely ideal? This is why i'm getting the "how to brew book" this friday when i go get some new gear......I never claimed to be an expert.

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Alright......

How to brew is an alright book. I guess its good for the basics. I think Palmer says somethings that are just wrong/his opinion and states them in an anal way.

You will def. learn a lot from the book tho. You can read the first edition for free at howtobrew.com (note: its the first edition)

I learned a lot in the beginning from Charlie Papazian's books, but I don't know if I can recommend them anymore. They are fairly dated now, with some bogus/ridiculous info, but regardless the books are an invaluable resource.

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Old 10-18-2010, 06:34 PM   #30
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i've seen that webpage, its just not the same as an in hand book. i can take notes and mark it up and refrence it much faster than my computer. i know i'm a new guy, but please be patient.



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