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Old 06-04-2007, 04:31 PM   #1
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Default Copper Manifold / SS Braid.

Does any one have real experience as to which is best for a Cooler Mash tun

I know those who have Braid will likely say Braid and theose with a manifold will say manifold. But can any one qualify by experience rather than just opinion.

I'm going to build a couple of new mash tuns and am trying to decide weather to stick with a 25mm copper manifold.

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Old 06-04-2007, 04:38 PM   #2
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Does any one have real experience as to which is best for a Cooler Mash tun

I know those who have Braid will likely say Braid and theose with a manifold will say manifold. But can any one qualify by experience rather than just opinion.

I'm going to build a couple of new mash tuns and am trying to decide weather to stick with a 25mm copper manifold.
I've only used copper, and from what I understand, it's the reason that I'm able to do heavy grain bills. And I'm so friggin stoked about my 83% efficiency over the weekend that I'm no longer concerned about it's effectiveness.
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:41 PM   #3
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I'm open to advice but I think a manifold is best.
Hence that's what I've used.

My last Brew it around 90% on a batch sparge with a copper manifold.

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Old 06-04-2007, 04:43 PM   #4
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I just used copper because it's what I had on hand. I'd prolly go with 1 inch instead of 25mm though.





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Old 06-04-2007, 04:51 PM   #5
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I started with a stainless braid and then switched to a copper manifold. The main reason I switched was that I kept deforming the braid when I hit it with my mash paddle and I got tired of replacing it.

In terms of how well one or the other works, I was able to drain the tun much faster when batch sparging with the braid - but it left a ton of liquid behind in the tun since it has no syphon. With my drilled copper manifold I leave less than a litre of liquid in the tun (before the liquid soaked into the grain starts separating).

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I used copper in my old rectangular cooler. I made a braid for my new round cooler, but never used it...it seems so flimsy (and there are a number of posts here about what people have done to address this) that I didn't feel like investing the extra time...I ended up modifying the dip tube on my SS false bottom to make it fit my new cooler, and abandoned the braid.

If you're comfortable working with copper and don't mind investing a little extra time and $$ up front (sounds like you've built one before, so you know what you're up against); I vote for the manifold.

Actually, I guess my actions vote for the SS false bottom

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Old 06-04-2007, 05:39 PM   #7
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I've never heard of a stuck mash with a copper manifold. I have with a false bottom and braid.

Here's one I made earlier.

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Shouldn't the slots point down so the grain doesn't plug the holes?

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The grain husks act as a filter but don't block the holes. Never had a stuck sparge with it and have hit upto 90% with it.

There are some slots at the bottom as well running length ways.

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You're right about the bias. I have a braid and havn't had reason to try the manifold. I think it's a close tie between the two if you don't want to pay for a false bottom (which I think has a slight edge).

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