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Old 04-04-2007, 08:45 PM   #1
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Been mulling cans around in my head for quite some time now.

Since the oscar blues tour on BB video actually.

I know, a little mad, maybe I should call a shrink. Anyone ever had these thoughts before? I've been trying to research the can sealers and info is hard to come by, but every once and a while I can pickup some decent info. It's pretty hard to even get good info on beverage sealers alone, usually everything is on sealers for cans you would get your peas and carrots in. I've seen some hand driven ones online, mostly old models though that aren't in production anymore (usually old sites that don't get updated or archived files). Big commercial ones are easy to find, if you want a fully automated process and have a bare minimum of 20 grand sitting in your back pocket (less taxes )

There is an extrusion plant in my area. I want to stop in and see if they would actually sell 12 oz can stock and lids by the pallet and if they would what they would charge.

The whole idea seems way out of HB ablity. That's obvious. But hell, i've seen people discourage others for even thinking of malting grain on here. Now people are talking about it and doing it left and right (well maybe not talking on here about it much).

We've got Yuri making his own SS roller mill and SS conical, John Beere being featured in Zymurgy for building a freaking walk in cooler. If there is any resource that would be able to spark good crazy progress I think we have it here.

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You should check out this link to a local company here in Calgary.

http://www.cask.com/main/index.php?page_id=39

Maybe out of the financial reach of most homebrewers, but canning is certainly possible.

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You should check out this link to a local company here in Calgary.

http://www.cask.com/main/index.php?page_id=39

Maybe out of the financial reach of most homebrewers, but canning is certainly possible.
That's actually the company that oscar blues got theirs from! I think i seen on there somewheres 21st amendment has one from them too. Neat company and site.

They are probably the best place I have been able to spot out there so far.
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You should check out this link to a local company here in Calgary.

http://www.cask.com/main/index.php?page_id=39

Maybe out of the financial reach of most homebrewers, but canning is certainly possible.
Called to see if they have a print catalog and to get some quotes and the sales rep for eastern north america is out of the country until April 8th.

I'm very curious how much just a sealer would cost and how much a pallet of cans and lids costs.

If this were relatively reasonable i could even see some clubs owning one of these for club use and "renting" to club members. A filler would be fairly simple to concoct yourself, the only major benefit to their filler would be the auto stop and of course their support.

Will call back next week.

[edit: checked the pallet specs on cans and for an export standard pallet of 12oz cans, lowest number of layers on pallet equaled to 6613 cans/pallet. Yowser! According to the video they have on the site that would be about $66,130 to buy a pallet of cans! I don't even know if that would estimate shipping.

I mean for 275 cases that really doesn't seem out of control. I mean that would last about 125 five gallon batches of brew! At 10 cents a can if you could purchase the cans at a more reasonable amount that ain't too shabby. But that would be one hell of a fundraiser to just get the pallet of cans lol!

if there was enough interest you might be able to convince a LHBS, some clubs, and some moneybaggers to get together haha]
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:15 PM   #5
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I think you slipped a couple of decimal points. At 0.10 each, that should be $661.30/pallet.

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I think you slipped a couple of decimal points. At 0.10 each, that should be $661.30/pallet.
yes i did. and i realized it as i was thinking about it while walking the dog in this cold a$$ weather.

note to self: quit multitasking, especially with the number of tasks begins to break the 5 barrier
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Could buy used:
http://probrewer.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=19867#post19867

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I looked into a set up for home canning once. It sounded neat but you could buy all the fruits and vegetables you wanted for the price of the cans.

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IDK about the whole can thing. The only commercial/micro beer I can think of that I would rather have in a can is Guinness. Other than that, its bottles EVERY time. IMHO, cans are way too BMC. On top of that, you reuse commercial bottles you buy and only incur cost for cleaning and capping. I got my bench capper for 13 bucks and get a HUGE bag of caps for a couple more bucks.

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i can think of a number of places that bottles are not allowed (i.e. beaches, baseball diamonds, certain park functions) and are not very practical (i.e. walking around in a drunken stupor at a NASCAR race haha or parades or the like) that I would MUCH rather be drinking my own beer than drinking every BMC equivalent of natty light.

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