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Old 10-03-2012, 04:49 PM   #1
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I am starting on a new single tier brew stand and fermentation chamber. My goal is a single tier stand running natural gas, inspired by brutus and all the other awesome builds on this site... but manually ran.

The stand is going to be built out of 2x2 16 gauge cold rolled steel, it will have 2 pumps and will be about the height of a keg. When I started designing the stand I thought it would be bigger… Anyways I will start cutting and welding tonight. I am posting the design plans for the stand and plumbing.

I am still working on the natural gas part. The house I live in has a electric water heater in the garage, so there is an open NG gas line just begging for me to use it. I am still a little unsure about the burners but these are the ones I am planning on.

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I do mostly 5G batches, but the plan is to up it to 10G. I will try to post as many pics as I can here are a few including my old three tier brew stand. Also I would appreciate any and all questions, concerns, criticisms...or anything.

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Old 10-03-2012, 06:46 PM   #4
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why is there tubing going into stomachs? haha just kidding!

good luck man! making a stand was the best thing i ever did to my setup

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Great time for you!

Maybe I'm wrong, but if I well remember the input hole of the pump should stay on the lower side and the output on the higher one. Taking a look at your design it seems to me you're doing the opposite.
Also, do you mind to share some photos of the tools you're going to use for cutting and welding?

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Old 10-03-2012, 07:28 PM   #6
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Yes, you would want the output side of the pump to be facing up so the air can escape easily. Also are you going to have valves on those T locations. If not then your going to have water/wort moving in directions that you will not want when your pumping.

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I did not know that about the pumps thanks for the heads up, and the tee's are actually 3 way valves. Little expensive but they were to cool to pass up.

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And I will definitely get some pics and detailed info (the tools are not mine).

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Looks like you are off to a good start. I designed mine earlier this year. One suggestion I would have is to put some diagonal pot supports in each of your stations. This will enable you to accommodate smaller kettles as well as the larger ones you will want for 10 gallon batches. My advice all centers around planning for things you don't think you will do now. This will save you time, money and/or work later.

I would suggest building it to accommodate kettle sizes for one batch size larger than you currently foresee yourself doing. In my case, I have 20 gallon kettles for 11 gallon final batch size (into the fermenter). I built my stand to hold kettles up to at least 26 gallons and as small as 15 gallons. I laid out the design on the floor with masking tape to get the dimensions right.

Also, I would go ahead and plumb it for 3 burners even though, like I did when I built my stand, I said I was going to stick to manual operation. A plate to mount a chiller (you already mentioned pumps), a switch for the pumps, and a control panel arm will be a good way to plan for the future as well. Some rear uprights to mount water plumbing isn't a bad idea either. If you can add a work station that folds out, that would be very handy. I did not do this and kind of wish I did. Finally, and I can't stress this enough, add some thin pegs to hang spoons on. This was a last minute call to the welder for me and I'm very glad I did.

For paint, if you use the Rustoleum BBQ Grill stuff, order the "Ultra" variety. The Ultra is a gloss paint. The flat stuff will rub off like crazy. The Ultra works great.

Can't wait to see what you build!

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Thanks dcbc, after thinking about it, I decided to make the stand bigger on your recommendation. Thanks for the info about the paint that's the route I am going to go.

For the info on the tools we were using stick welder and a 90 amp wire feed. Then a 2 horsepower (grind saw)?...to cut the tubing. I got a few more pictures but we got a late start and didnt want to piss off the neighbors. Should get more done today.

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