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Old 01-23-2008, 04:04 PM   #1
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I'm planning a bar in the basement, I have a few wants and an idea I want to run by you guys.

I want the bar to have a 2 tap tower on the bar, but I want to use a keezer setup with a couple other taps on a collar. Here is my thought:



I was thinking of using coper tubing wraped in insulation to run the beer lines in to run between the collar and the tower and leaving a section of coper tube exposed inside the keezer to keep the lines kool.

The top of the bar (or possibly lower shelf depending on bar height) would have a removable section to allow the freezer lid to open to change kegs/clean.

The bar top itself will be poured resin over playing cards and bottle caps, with the rest of the room decorated with collections of magic props that I already have. (I'm a semi-pro magician)

Any thoughts on the tower setup?



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Old 01-23-2008, 04:21 PM   #2
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So the kezzer will be under the bar? How you going to open it?



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At the bottom of the page linked below is how I cool my beerlines. Very similar to what you want except my upright fridge is next to the bar. My beer lines run through 2" flexible tubing with a small fan to blow cool air over them. Everything is encased on every side with 2" of styrofoam

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=51790

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The top of the bar (or possibly lower shelf depending on bar height) would have a removable section to allow the freezer lid to open to change kegs/clean.

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At the bottom of the page linked below is how I cool my beerlines. Very similar to what you want except my upright fridge is next to the bar. My beer lines run through 2" flexible tubing with a small fan to blow cool air over them. Everything is encased on every side with 2" of styrofoam

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=51790
That's a pretty slick set-up. Do you find that the first couple pours are just as cool as the rest? Anything you would do different?
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How I missed that I have no idea.. I'm also not sure that would be a great way to go. But I don't have time right now to throw out any other ideas.
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im currently looking to do the same setup and trying to figure out this part as well. only thing that i can think of so having the faucet on a stationary part of the bar, so the "lid" of the bar wouldn't actually move the faucet when your moving kegs/ cleaning




i was also thinking some flexible ducting if the faucet were to be on the lid part and doing the whole fan method

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Why bother with the hassle of cutting this bar all apart when you can just get yourself a 4912 minifridge that will hold two cornie's? If you want more than two kegs, put some wheels on the freezer so it can be easily pulled out, and ditch the tower idea. Put all of the faucets on the collar. You'll need to invest in an expensive cooling system if you plan on putting the tower in anyways... or you'll need to rig up some fancy fan system. PITFA... both the tower and the removable bar apart.

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That's a pretty slick set-up. Do you find that the first couple pours are just as cool as the rest? Anything you would do different?
I wouldn't do anything different. I get a little bit of foam with my first pour, but that is because I get some gas coming out of the beer as it sits overnight in the lines - even in the fridge where it is cold. My first pour starts fine, then a second later it "burps" and then flows fine. I've noticed no difference in temperatures between pours. I'll have to stick a thermometer in the top of the tower into the airline to see what the temp is in there. I'll have to wait until summer though. Right now the basement (aka giant lager chamber) is hovering around 50 F and the beer fridge is set at 48 F so there is no point is testing now. Even in the summer though, I didn't notice and temparture differences
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Its not that I haven't considered that, but there are a couple of things that keep me from going that route

  1. Cheaper/Free Freezer from Craigslist or Classifieds
  2. I REALLY want a tower (for looks)
  3. I want to have 2 kegs on the tower, and room to have more on the collar if I wanted, so the sanyo is to small.

I know it sounds like a PITA, but I have a good buddy who LOVES to do woodwork and builds like this, and he has tools. Someone on here had a tower cooler that used copper tubing sticking into the keezer a bit that kept the copper cool and therefor cooled the tower. I'm wondering if the length needed here would keep that from working with the right amount of insulation.


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