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Old 05-13-2010, 05:02 PM   #21
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Another thing I love about electric. No two people agree on any setup. Pol thread here we come.



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Old 05-13-2010, 05:23 PM   #22
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Take a look here http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/. The first post is all about setting up the kettles, but I'll bet they'll do a control box, etc. post in the (near?) future.



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Old 05-13-2010, 05:39 PM   #23
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Here, http://www.brewmation.com/Elements.html

Crap I could buy the whole setup for what he wants for some of those.
I think the unit for $599 would be the one you want. That would leave you $1000 for stand, kegs, pipes, pump, and misc connectors.

If you compare that to the full system you originally posted about. You would have a much nicer system. I would venture to say you would end up lower than $1500 total if you went this route.

I think in my opinion given your electrical knowledge. That would be the ticket. After buying wire, switches, controllers, connectors, and misc other parts. My control system was the most expensive part of my build. What they are offering is a pretty good system. You are pretty much getting exactly what I have on my system as far as control features.

Edit: After looking at it a bit more. The features of the $799 unit is more like what I have. This is a bit pricey. I bet I only have about $400 in all my parts.
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I think the unit for $599 would be the one you want. That would leave you $1000 for stand, kegs, pipes, pump, and misc connectors.

If you compare that to the full system you originally posted about. You would have a much nicer system. I would venture to say you would end up lower than $1500 total if you went this route.

I think in my opinion given your electrical knowledge. That would be the ticket. After buying wire, switches, controllers, connectors, and misc other parts. My control system was the most expensive part of my build. What they are offering is a pretty good system. You are pretty much getting exactly what I have on my system as far as control features.

Edit: After looking at it a bit more. The features of the $799 unit is more like what I have. This is a bit pricey. I bet I only have about $400 in all my parts.

Something to think about. Who wants to build me one?
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Something to think about. Who wants to build me one?
Sparta, Tn? Darn shame. Wish you were closer. The build is not all that difficult. But, IMHO, it requires some hands on to make sure that all of the safety considerations are accounted for in the process.
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Sparta, Tn? Darn shame. Wish you were closer. The build is not all that difficult. But, IMHO, it requires some hands on to make sure that all of the safety considerations are accounted for in the process.
+1 I would have no problem building one if you could be here to help and understand. That is just too much liability.
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I recommend research and learn. If you buy a pre-built system you wont be able to repair it if you have no knowledge of it.
+1 to that.

Not just repair, but safety as well. What you're dealing with could kill you.

I know that you are an intelligent man; therefore, you could easily learn the necessary theory. Start playing around with the electrical components on your own (which is fun!) before dealing with an entire complex electrical system.

If you won't bother to learn the fundamentals, then don't proceed to buy it. You don't need an electrical system, especially if you're not willing to understand how it works.

Good luck, and keep it safe, bro.
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+1 to that.

Not just repair, but safety as well. What you're dealing with could kill you.

I know that you are an intelligent man; therefore, you could easily learn the necessary theory. Start playing around with the electrical components on your own (which is fun!) before dealing with an entire complex electrical system.

If you won't bother to learn the fundamentals, then don't proceed to buy it. You don't need an electrical system, especially if you're not willing to understand how it works.

Good luck, and keep it safe, bro.
I am not so sure I agree with you on this. Everyday housewives turn on their electric stoves and microwaves with boiling fluid in them. They do not need to know the hows and whys of the device they are using. Why should brewing be any different. I bet most commercial brewers do not really know how their equipment works. When it breaks they call in the repairman.

Expecting everyone to know as much as designers and builders does seem a little bit of a reach. Though we have some safeguards in place like UL listings and such, but overall people have other things to deal with then learning complicated details. They just need their products to work.

Though I agree it is in your best interest to know much of these things. I don't believe they are required. Another dangerous "thing" many people use is a car. Sure some of us tinker and modify. Most just turn the key.
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I am not so sure I agree with you on this.
Well said! I'm not an idiot. I have a class A CDL, I've build 3 homes from the ground up. I can pour and finish cement, and chew bubble gum and walk at the same time.

Plus my dad is a licensed electrician. I just don't know the technical in's and out's of a partially automated electric brewery. It's mostly a lingo/sourcing problem. I'm starting to see why the POl ran off.
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I was at High Gravity last Sunday at an all-grain class. They demonstrate with that very system. It works like a dream. I am slowly converting over to electric and emulating their system as closely as I can.



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