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Old 11-28-2009, 03:33 AM   #1
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check out the prices on these heating elements. im considering going electric and wat to know if i could run two of those 5500 watt heating elements extra low density in my sankey kegs. i have 220v 30amp in my laudry room i just noticed after 6 years. im gona do 10 or 12 gallon batches, maybee the ocasional 5 gallon.

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Old 11-28-2009, 03:34 AM   #2
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The ultra low watt density elements are probably too long to fit in a Sanke keg. You will most certainly not be able to run two 5500W elements on a single 30A circuit. Just one of them will draw 22A.

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Old 11-28-2009, 03:42 AM   #3
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i just have to be able to run them both at the same time to get the mash water and herms to temp. is this possible with a pid? what size element would work.


(i dont know if im gonna actualy going to go this rout being that i already have three kegs welded up to turn into a propane system but its a tempting idea and would be cool to have an all electric)

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Take the element out of your mash tun, and use the HLT/HERMS for all heating prior to the boil. Top it up after you dough in (if required).

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Old 11-28-2009, 06:01 AM   #5
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The ultra low watt density elements are probably too long to fit in a Sanke keg. You will most certainly not be able to run two 5500W elements on a single 30A circuit. Just one of them will draw 22A.
With AB kegs at 49.25" plus inches in circumference or 15.676" OD minus the wall thickness times two is still more than 15.25" ID. Add a 1" coupling welded to the outside of the keg your over 16 1/4" from the coupling face to the back side of the kegs opposite inside wall. The 5.5KW wavy element is 13 1/2" long from the element tip to the threaded flange vs 16.25" inches or more at the coupling so there is plenty of room for this 5.5KW element. I have installed two 5.5KW into a keg without a problem and this with both off center of the keg to allow screwing in those wavy elements. At 11KW the waiting times for me are what I can live with not like watching paint drying when heating up large brew day volumes.
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Yeah, I use that 5500w Extra Low in a Sankey with out a coupling even.

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Yeah, I use that 5500w Extra Low in a Sankey with out a coupling even.
That shows there's clearance without adding a coupling which will give you more clearance. At only 13 1/2" long the element should fit into a keg with 15" plus ID. I needed this extra clearance with the couplings holding the elements farther out from the keggles due to being off to the side of the kegs centerline with two wavy elements, they had to clear each other screwing them in. Fast heating with two then one 5.5KW element to maintain temps. When brewing for 15 gallons net on tap in one brew session the 11KW sure makes for faster heating and shorter brewing hours.
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so my outlet cant support two of them? well how can i brew with only one going at a time?



i need POWER!!!!

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I heat the MLT with 11KW, hit near strike temp then heat HLT at 11KW to my set temp then use only one 5.5KW element in the HLT and MLT to reach and maintain my temps. This way fast heating and always at 11KW maximum. When filling the boil keggle i'll start with 5.5KW or 11KW, nearing the boil temp switch to one element maintaining the desired amount of boil. This run by a BCS 460 control unit.

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I have 60 amps availble for the brew rig plus hundreds of feet of #2 awg on down SOOW cord and caps free why not use them? I only run 11KW at a time plus one must include the pump and controller current draw plus any panel lights without pushing the breaker to its max current rating.
I wanted power I got it and use it not waiting hours with 120 volt heating or propane fill bills pissing around. Now with the new 3 1/2 gallon or so called old 20# now called 15# bottle propane fills what a rip.
Blue Rino at $19.99 exchange in my area for 3 1/2 gallons or $6.21 a gallon with tax added. I'm not going to fight the 75 gallon propane tank given to me to have filled. Natural gas would be far better and cheaper plus I already have a pipe and valve in the open patio. I still hate gas. If you have the capacity electrical heating has always been my first choice plus easy to control. I went the gas route 18 years ago by badd advice then went electric within months back then. Now with units like the BCS 460 on the market it's a dream plus computer down loading to repeat the exact same brewing again.
Sorry ran off OP topic, guilty as charged.

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