I tried Stoutd's Gold Lager recently, and tonight, Victory Lager. I've always considered myself an ale guy. I love the hops. I never much liked a malty taste. Since I've been enlightened to the glory of good beer, I've expanded my horizons to include everything I can get my hands on. These two lagers knock my socks off....delicious! Fresh, clean maltiness...that I LOVE! Kinda sucks, though....I've always liked taking sides; having favorites. Used to say I was a pale ale guy, then had to amend that and become an ale guy....now I guess I just have to face facts and admit no dicrepancies: I'm a beer guy.