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Flyin' Lion · 05-01-2007, 10:34 AM

I know that this is not in the spirit of the thread, but I want to actually come out in favor of a couple of stouts that I think are favorably priced and very good. Murphy's and Mackesson have not been mentioned in this thread yet and I think that is a good thing, unless of course most people don't really drink them. I know that most people have to know of Murphy's, but I think Mackesson has been mentioned on this forum only twice before (both times by me

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I tend to prefer the sweeter stouts, but will enjoy a Guiness on occasion. Some beers are priced high, but are still worth it if you're not out to get drunk. Bell's sells here for $11 a sixer, but the frequency with wich I purchase it, I'm okay with that.

Glibbidy · 05-01-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 5gBrewer

To say anything Dogfish Head is a bit harsh I think. They certainly have their dramatically overpriced way-too-sweet beers out there, like their Oak-Aged IIPA, and the straight up IIPA is too sweet and expensive in my opinion too.

I'm just saying that DFH is just one of them popular beers that are sold at "import price" and I often wonder why would anyone pay good money for that beer. I'd pay 9.49 for six pack of pilsner urquell over DFH 60 minute any day of the week. Heck I'd be more inclined to spend another buck and get a six pack of bigfoot (when it's available)!

FatMonsters · 05-01-2007, 03:45 PM

Magic Hat - Overpriced and not that good. The only beer they make that I like is their Batch 376, but here in Upstate, NY finding it, is few and far beteen. I think Sam Adams is a little overpriced. I'm not saying I don't like it, but I think its costly for their beer. Warsteiner is overpriced as well and not that good!

debtman7 · 05-01-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron von BeeGee

Incidentally, I had a Rogue Imperial Pilsner tonight with hamburgers with Rogue Creamery smoked bleu cheese. It was very upscale.

Those are two of my favorite things

Their imperial pilsner is money but one of my favorite beers. The smoky blue cheese is also fantastic, alas not the same company.

The only magic hat I've ever had was the HiPA which I thought was pretty good. I'm a big rogue fan too, but only certain one's. Imperial Pilsner, Imperial Stout, Shakespear Stout and Brutal Bitter are all really good. Bell's Two Hearted Ale is also fantastic, and the expedition stout is really good although seriously expensive ($18 a 6 pack).

On overpriced beers, I'd second the belgian comment but it's just not my taste, no offence to anyone

I'll put on my flame suit here: the two beers I've ever regretted paying so much money for are Oaked Arrogant Bastard and Fred from the Wood. I like arrogant bastard but couldn't do the oaked version. Gave away the rest of the 6 pack which I think cost around $16. Fred from the Wood cost me something like $14 for a bottle in a restaraunt and I could only get down half of it... Both are oak aged, so I guess I'm not a fan of that either. Reminds me too much of whisky, which reminds me too much of overdoing it in college and vomiting half the night...

Evan! · 05-01-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Glibbidy

I'm just saying that DFH is just one of them popular beers that are sold at "import price" and I often wonder why would anyone pay good money for that beer. I'd pay 9.49 for six pack of pilsner urquell over DFH 60 minute any day of the week. Heck I'd be more inclined to spend another buck and get a six pack of bigfoot (when it's available)!

Pshaw.

While DFH could drop a buck per sixer in price and I'd be happy, I guess I'm just so used to getting my stuff at wholesale cost anyway, I don't complain. DFH isn't the greatest craftbrew, but most of it is damn fine.

Urquell (the Urquell we get here in the states) is skunky and hideous. How anyone could pay even normal BMC prices for it (much less the "premium" price is costs) just goes to show how much people can be influenced by the exoticism of foreign "rare" beers, regardless of quality. I don't mean any offense to you personally, I really don't, but I've never had an Urquell that was less skunked than Rolling Rock, and that's saying alot. Maybe Urquell is good back where it comes from (it probably is), but not here. I blame the green bottles and the international distributor regime.

**raceskier** · 05-01-2007, 06:15 PM

Ramblings.
I was on a business trip to Baltimore and wanted to do some local beer sampling. Maybe I got a spoiled Yuengling, but I dumped it. Horrible. I had a liquor store employee introduce me to Stoudt's Lager and DFH 90 min. Both I thought were great. I agree the DFH is too pricey, so I brewed my own clone. Came out pretty close. I want to try the 60 Min as well.

Back out west, I tried a Rogue MIP. It was OK, but definitely not worth anything like the price. Cool bottle though. SNPA and Fat Tire Amber are just not my type of beer. The Fat Tire 1554 I definitely liked. My local super rotates through putting the premiums on sale, so I'll pick up Spaten, Redhook ESB, Stone IPA etc. then.

Nehoc · 05-02-2007, 11:42 PM

Although I'm normally a fan of the brand, the Sierra Nevada Summerfest was a HUGE disappointment for me this year.

I was outside BBQing, my wife brings out a beer for me in a lager glass, I took a swig, smelled it, and went "Is this a PBR?" because it tasted EXACTLY like canned PBR I keep around for beer can chicken and giving to folks that don't like hoppy homebrews. She was so offended, but seriously, the Sierra Nevada Summerfest tasted just like it.

Fast forward to last night, and there it is on the menu at the local sports bar. Premium prices and all. I just tucked in with some Black Diamond Amber and watched others buy overpriced pitchers of Summerfest.

ukbrewer · 05-11-2007, 04:20 PM

Hieniken is probably our worst lager next to one called Carling.
Its cheap, over carbonated and tasteless.
I've been to Amsterdam and the difference is unbelievable, its malty, strong and has a great smell to it.
You're right about Guiness as well.
I recently went on a brewing course at a university in England and i made a Russain Imperial stout.
On my first attempt it was the best stout the lecturers had tasted!
We did a taste profile of several micro brewed stouts and porters and then we tried Guiness and it didn't taste of anything.
Consistency is all they have going for them.
To say its brewed in Dublin (1 hour flight from me) it costs about £3 a pint in the UK ($6) when an average micro brewed beer only costs about £2.20.

chthonik · 05-18-2007, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Glibbidy

ANYTHING by dogfishead!

Sorry guys, gotta respectfully disagree re: Dogfish Head.

Their limited editions are expensive, but for a reason. Who else is making 18% BEER (Olde School and 120M). Granted, I think both of these need to age a LOT longer than they have been.

I've been really REALLY impressed by DFH Red & White, Burton Baton, and Black & Blue.

But I'm getting off topic...

I'm gonna agree with almost anything by Shiner, Sam Adams, or Red Hook being overpriced. They just aren't as good as they get billed.

I am not crazy about Yuengling, but I think it's priced about right for mass-market cheap beer that still has SOME tatse.

razyrsharpe · 05-19-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron von BeeGee

That seems to work for "the country's oldest brewery", as well - Yuengling (or however you spell it). Barely a quarter notch above BMC. The true shame is that all the great buffalo wings places seem to think it's the pinnacle of beerdom.

about five years ago, wasn't plank road brewery (icehouse) the oldest brewery in america? it's all marketing!