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Old 03-25-2013, 03:18 PM   #51
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at a recent beer festival with almost 400 beers, i noticed an extremely strong trend among the breweries.

beer 1: IPA
beer 2: Pale
beer 3: Hoppy dark
beer 4: Imperial IPA

i'm not even kidding. it was almost comical. i like IPAs, but it was just too much.

i think of the 365 beers, there were maybe 10 lagers, with more than half of those being from one vendor. of the 365 beers, i found one legit pilsner. also i found one kolsch and one cream ale.

what i think a brewery lineup at a festival should look like:

beer 1: Pale or IPA
beer 2: Porter or brown or similar
beer 3: Clean lager, pseudo lager, or amber style
beer 4: Something high gravity

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Old 03-25-2013, 03:40 PM   #52
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Hoppy beers are not a trend.

Overly hopped (Hop-Bombs) are a fad that will change over time but IPA's and APA's are an American staple now and will not be going away.
I would have to go with this

I love me a good commercial IPA, even love the OK IPAs that I brew. got one in primary right now and the Centennial aroma coming out of the airlock is like farts from an angel.

don't think this will ever change. I might brew other beers, but I will always come back around to my IPAs

I don't think I've ever had anything that would be considered a Hop-Bomb. mostly because they're over-hyped limited issue and I just don't waste my time. I like Two Hearted, but unless someone pours me a Hopslam, I won't bother.

people will tire of that
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:38 PM   #53
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Imagine how much cheaper hops would be to purchase if it weren't for the excessively hopped trend? For most of us making IPA's, most of the cost is the hop bill!

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Imagine how much cheaper hops would be to purchase if it weren't for the excessively hopped trend? For most of us making IPA's, most of the cost is the hop bill!
hard to say. production would be a lot lower.
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hard to say. production would be a lot lower.
But if demand wasn't going up exponentially it would be safe to assume that supply could keep up, prices would reflect the market and "hop shortages" would not be a worry. I have so many different hops in my freezer right now because I know that if I wait until winter to buy that all the sought after hops from the previous growing season will be pretty much sold out everywhere.
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There would also be much fewer varieties of hops without the current demand.

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The French gave us the croissant, and America made a croissan'wich... much in the way the English gave us India Pale Ales, and we made triple digit IBU hop bombs.

I like a hoppy beer, but I've re-fallen in love with traditional English IPA's. I hit the local beer store and bought a bottle of every variety I could find and then made my attempt to brew my own. It's not just the Maris otter or the English hops I'm liking right now, it's the balance of malt and hop so that one does not overpower the other.

Anyone remember this graph?



Most American IPA's are so off the scale it's not even relevant anymore.

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can you recommend some commercial EIPAs?

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Samuel Smith's India Ale (my favorite)
Burton Bridge Empire India Pale Ale (my second favorite)
St. Peter's India Pale Ale was a skunky mess but that may have more to do with the green bottles they use.
Fuller's India Pale Ale would be my favorite if I could find it.
I did try Bass' India Pale Ale. It is the BMC version of an English IPA.

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I though Sam Smith's IPA was incredibly bland, try a Mean Time IPA- at least it has some hop flavor.

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