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10-14-2005, 05:51 PM
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Guinness What!?!
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I feel like I've been cheated on...this is from a story in the NY Daily News.
Stout touts great taste, less bitter
A grand Irish tradition is getting a makeover.
The brewers of Guinness stout, the 246-year-old beer brand whose tough-guy bitter taste helps sell 5 million pints a day worldwide, have come up with 10 milder versions of their best seller to win new customers.
The first mellow stout brand will hit Dublin bars on Wednesday. Every six months, a different flavor will take its place, until customers have had a chance to try them all.
In the past, tinkering with stout has been a lost cause, but wine and lager sales have cut Guinness' profits - as have smoking bans in Irish bars.
"It's a tradition in Ireland. [Changing the taste] puts people off Guinness, full stop," said Lindsay, 23, an Irish barkeep at Twins Public House near the Jacob Javits Center, who didn't want to give her last name.
But its brewers think smoother Guinness will appeal to a new audience. Some faithful fans, such as Twins' customer James Connelly, 32, of Derry, Northern Ireland, have said they are open to change.
"If it tastes better, if they can improve it, that's good," he said.
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10-14-2005, 06:00 PM
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I use secondaries. :p
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money is the root of all evil. they are losing some money, and now they are mucking with something beautiful to make more money.
money sucks. we should all barter with beer instead.
-walker
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10-14-2005, 06:05 PM
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I use secondaries. :p
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Originally Posted by gaelone
The brewers of Guinness stout... have come up with 10 milder versions of their best seller to win new customers.
The first mellow stout brand will hit Dublin bars on Wednesday. Every six months, a different flavor will take its place, until customers have had a chance to try them all.
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10 new versions rolled out one every 6 months? That's 4.5 years until the 10th one hits a pub!
will anyone remember if they liked the one from fall 2005 better than the one from spring 2010?
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Help me give childhood cancer the middle finger and donate to the St. Baldrick's Foundation.
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10-14-2005, 06:09 PM
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hey- if there are people around that will drink them, and that allows the company to do well and brew traditional stout well into the future, I don't care if they put out a marshmalllow and cotton candy flavored pseudo-Stout..just don't ask me to drink it.
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10-14-2005, 06:40 PM
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I completely understand what you're saying; there in business to make money....but it just feels wrong.
Great observation, Walker!
Has anyone ever tried Guinness Gold? I had one once, never saw it again, so I kept the bottle (a green Guinness bottle). I don't know the story behind this one, other than that it seems to have been a failed experiment. 
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10-14-2005, 06:52 PM
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As long as they don't scrap their classic style, I'll be a happy camper. Nothing like Guinness on tap, yumm.
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10-14-2005, 10:17 PM
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Guinness Stout? Never tried it and I don't like it!
How about them "d@mn fool" foamy widgets? Stupid idea or marketing drek?
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10-14-2005, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by david_42
Guinness Stout? Never tried it and I don't like it!
How about them "d@mn fool" foamy widgets? Stupid idea or marketing drek?
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10-14-2005, 11:26 PM
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Anyone who thinks Guinnes is "bitter" is a weiner. I think people are fooled by the color, because Guinness is a very mild tasting beer, IMO. Hell, the draught is only like 3.8% ABV or so. How can you get milder than that? I know.....have an iced tea!
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10-15-2005, 12:05 AM
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Long story but if you need a good long secession beer, Guiness Draft Stout is the ticket.
I eventually survived drinking 10 pints of beer a day for 2 weeks straight y switching to Guiness. My red cell count went way up and I felt great!
Heck I don't care if they want to branch out. Look at all the other stouts that are now on the market. Choclate stout, Oatmeal stout, Imperial stout....... They just want to cash in on a piece of the microbrew market.
As long as they don't mess with their signature product, I'll still have my creamy pint of Guiness Draft Stout at the pub when I'm out.
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