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kpr121 02-27-2013 12:42 PM

Budweiser waters down its beer, lawsuit alleges
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/budw...eges-1C8566405

Anyone seen this? Seems like this would be a fairly simple claim to test.

liquiditynerd 02-27-2013 12:50 PM

I just read that also and jumped on here to see what's up! What a litigation nation. I have empirical evidence from my bladder during college research that I'll withold because of the insanity that AB drinkers actually thought they were drinking beer. It's a Widely known fact that AB flavors all their water with barley.

mdgagne 02-27-2013 12:56 PM

I'm not an AB fan, but I'm not sure I buy this lawsuit. Although the beer that AB makes isn't good (in my opinion) they are very consistent. I'm pretty sure that this "watering down" of the beer is part of their process - they actually brew the beer at a high ABV and water it down at bottling so that they get more beer per unit volume of their brew house. So, for example, they brew 8% bud light but dilute it down to 4% at bottling.

I guess we'll see when/if AB provides more information.

GrogNerd 02-27-2013 01:01 PM

have no idea what the label on the bottle/can/keg says the ABV is, but if it's different than what's inside, then the lawsuit has merit

WesleyS 02-27-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdgagne
I'm not an AB fan, but I'm not sure I buy this lawsuit. Although the beer that AB makes isn't good (in my opinion) they are very consistent. I'm pretty sure that this "watering down" of the beer is part of their process - they actually brew the beer at a high ABV and water it down at bottling so that they get more beer per unit volume of their brew house. So, for example, they brew 8% bud light but dilute it down to 4% at bottling.

I guess we'll see when/if AB provides more information.

I remember hearing something like that before. I think it's part of their process and they just water it down to their target ABV before packaging and whoever is making this claim against them doesn't understand the process.

kpr121 02-27-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrogNerd (Post 4950126)
have no idea what the label on the bottle/can/keg says the ABV is, but if it's different than what's inside, then the lawsuit has merit

Exactly. And if that was the case, you would think it would have been reported in the news article.

"In a telephone interview with The Associated Press, Boxer said he has evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped short of saying the beers had been independently tested."

Maybe this story is just in it's infancy so they dont have all the details. Or maybe they are gathering samples to do a full scale widespread testing from as many brewing locations as possible.

Heck for 35 bucks you can have White Labs test it for you:
http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/b...-kit-plus.html

kpr121 02-27-2013 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WesleyS (Post 4950165)
I remember hearing something like that before. I think it's part of their process and they just water it down to their target ABV before packaging and whoever is making this claim against them doesn't understand the process.

I dont think this is the case. The article specifically mentions the fact that the ABV is not what is reported on the packaging. So they are saying that the beer is 3.5 or whatever, when the label says its 4%.

Its well known that the big brewers make their beer at a higher proof and add water at packaging. Fermentor space is at a premium, especially when you have such demand for your product.

Hey some of us homebrewers do the same thing honestly! Iíve fermented a 4 gallon batch in a corny and then added a gallon during the transfer to new keg. My motive was that it kept the krausen/blowoff under control.

GrogNerd 02-27-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpr121 (Post 4950463)
I dont think this is the case. The article specifically mentions the fact that the ABV is not what is reported on the packaging. So they are saying that the beer is 3.5 or whatever, when the label says its 4%.

this is, as I said, the key to the case

I wouldn't give a rat's rectum if they bottled water and sold it, as long as the label says 0.0% ABV

old-pasture-brew 02-27-2013 05:53 PM

Hey hey hey. Kpr121 how did that 4gal corny fermentation work out? Is there a thread on this. I got two kegs with stripped posts that I can't bare see become planters.

PJoyce85 02-27-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by old-pasture-brew
Hey hey hey. Kpr121 how did that 4gal corny fermentation work out? Is there a thread on this. I got two kegs with stripped posts that I can't bare see become planters.

I am currently fermenting 2 lagers in corny kegs right now. PM me if you want details


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