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Billy-Klubb · 01-23-2013, 12:17 AM

psssshhhhhh. one of these dare.

**passedpawn** · 01-23-2013, 12:22 AM

I love Becks!

I've tried over and over again to clone it. I've messed with water, step mashes, ferment temps, yeasts, I just can't get it. I'm going to try again as soon as my west-coast-ipa-loving-brother visits in Feb.

**cluckk** · 01-23-2013, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuljin

We keep seeing these threads trashing BMC, and often times American lagers in general, as junk. Trash beer. Cheap, flavorless crap. Or nasty tasting crap. Or how it's blah blah blah, anyone could brew that swill. And that last remark is often followed with the built in cop out, but who would want to.

Okay, tough guy. Brew it.

I motion that anyone who makes such incredulous comments must brew an American lager on par with that of BMC and submit it to be judged by HBT or an officially recognized BJCP competition. Then they have to do it at least once more. Minimum 5 gallon batches. The scores must then be posted here. It has to take at least bronze, twice, for that person to spout off.

PS
Bud Platinum really does suck. That's the one freebee.

The original post assumes everyone speaking against BMC does so believing BMC do not brew an American lager well. I don't care for most lagers. I really don't like the BMC style American lagers. So, to speak bad about swill I have to prove that I can brew better swill?

The nice thing about this board is I can spout off about any beer I want and don't have to earn the privilege.

**Zuljin** · 01-23-2013, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cluckk

The original post assumes everyone speaking against BMC does so believing BMC do not brew an American lager well. I don't care for most lagers. I really don't like the BMC style American lagers. So, to speak bad about swill I have to prove that I can brew better swill?

The nice thing about this board is I can spout off about any beer I want and don't have to earn the privilege.

Ah, see, if you don't like American lager, you don't like American lager. That's fine. I don't much care for milk stout or these hop juice x-treme hops beers. And that's fine. But it's not swill. It's only something I don't like. Much. I had some Left Hand milk stout a while back and it was okay. A well done IPA is also good to me, at times.

**hoppyhoppyhippo** · 01-23-2013, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kirkwooder

I'm certainly not saying anything bad about anyone on this forum. Quite the oppisite, Most have been great, but there are a few who do come accross as a bit snobish. That is certainly their right, and they deserve to voice their oppinion as much as anyone else. I mearly wanted to remind them that they too, once enjoyed a BMH. They may have found something that they enjoy more, but it was still a bMH beer that got them started, and I believe that credit is due where it is deserved!

BMH beers are what they are and nothing more and nothing less!

Won't vouch for the other snobs, but my beer that got me drinking beer was Sam Adams. I of course am not the average Joe since I didn't go to college and was working a sales job at 21. Before that I drank terrible vodka, rum, or whiskey mixed with something else. My "bad beer" is Yuengling which is much less evil and JMO much better tasting, though that could largely be in my head, though beechwood aging tastes like piss.

**Zuljin** · 01-23-2013, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy-Klubb

psssshhhhhh. one of these dare.

Battle!

Billy-Klubb · 01-23-2013, 08:29 AM

oh, Junior!

**cluckk** · 01-23-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Zuljin

Ah, see, if you don't like American lager, you don't like American lager. That's fine. I don't much care for milk stout or these hop juice x-treme hops beers. And that's fine. But it's not swill. It's only something I don't like. Much. I had some Left Hand milk stout a while back and it was okay. A well done IPA is also good to me, at times.

Actually, one definition of "swill" is "a deep draught of drink, esp beer" (Taken from the World English Dictionary) or as a verb meaning "to drink large quantities of liquid," (from the same dictionary). Since I believe BMC have no other redeeming quality than the ability to be consumed in copious amounts, I am using the term properly.