Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Community > Drunken Ramblings and Mindless Mumbling > Arrogance or Delusion?




Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-27-2007, 11:19 AM   #11
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ayrton's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 809
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

Pfft. I don't believe you. I bet the real thing is way better. I guess you'll just have to let me try some to prove me wrong.


__________________
Primary 1: None
Primary 2: None
Secondary 1: None
Conditioning: None
Drinking: None (!)
Recently Kicked: None
Up Next: Beats me!
ayrton is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 03-27-2007, 11:55 AM   #12
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Monroe, Louisiana
Posts: 1,182
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

I'm not surprised, Yooper, and I doubt it's arrogance at all. My second ever batch of homebrew was an Oktoberfest made with extract and ale yeast and without a secondary. It was not "lagered" either. It was finished in October, so there was lots of Oktoberfest beer in the stores. SWMBO and I blind taste tested it against some "real" stuff from Germany.

We both were very surprised that mine tasted better. Both beers actually tasted extremely similar to one another, which, as a fledgling homebrewer. We both ended up giving mine the nod because it tasted "fresher."


McCall St. Brewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 03-27-2007, 11:58 AM   #13
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: West Monroe, Louisiana
Posts: 1,182
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default Here's what I think would be interesting...

What I wonder about this clones vs. commercial beer thing is how would our homebrew clones stack up against a nice fresh glass of draft beer?

The biggest advantage our beer has against most commercial brews in bottles is that ours is alive and there's is usually pasteurized. It's almost like comparing fresh vegetables to canned ones.
McCall St. Brewer is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 03-27-2007, 01:36 PM   #14
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
uglygoat's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Clebland, OH
Posts: 2,776
Liked 6 Times on 6 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ivan Lendl
woah, is that GG Allin? Are you Toilet Rocker?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_%22Pigpen%22_McKernan
__________________
A barrel of malt, a bushel of hops, you stir it around with a stick
The kind of lubrication to make your engine tick

never argue with an idiot, they'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
uglygoat is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 03-27-2007, 02:32 PM   #15
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
david_42's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Willamina & Oak Grove, Oregon, USA
Posts: 25,610
Liked 107 Times on 102 Posts

Default

Hop aroma starts declining immediately. Hazy IPAs are all the rage (not) and there is no reason to doubt that you can make something as good or better than the pros.

It's always interesting how the nose changes over the months. I've actually re-dry hopped on two occasions because the keg was "losing it".

Don't know about other brews, but my Rogue Mocha Porter clone (thank you AHB) stands up to the real thing on tap.
__________________
Remember one unassailable statistic, as explained by the late, great George Carlin: "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!"

"I would like to die on Mars, just not on impact." Elon Musk

Last edited by david_42; 03-27-2007 at 02:34 PM.
david_42 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 03-27-2007, 02:36 PM   #16
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
cweston's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Manhattan, KS
Posts: 2,019
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts

Default

I wonder if the "freshness" thing is due to most homebrew being unfiltered and (especially) un-pastuerized. Even when a batch has been aging 2-3 months, it still has that "fresh" taste that commercial beers often lack.
__________________

Primary: none
Secondary:
Bottle conditioning: Robust Porter
Drinking: Saison Dupont clone, tripel
Coming soon: Columbus APA, Rich Red ale
cweston is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 03-27-2007, 02:38 PM   #17
Vendor and Brewer
Vendor Ads 
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Bobby_M's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Piscataway, NJ
Posts: 20,669
Liked 462 Times on 327 Posts
Likes Given: 9

Default

The real key to the head to head is to make it blind. Use identical opaque glasses/cups and have someone pour and mark the bottoms with a piece of tape. Taste and pick your favorite, then find out which one it is. I'm not saying it's not great, but as the brewer, you're biased.
__________________
BrewHardware.com
Sightglass, Refractometer, Ball Valve, Weldless bulkhead, Thermometer, Decals, Stainless Steel Fittings, Compression Fittings, Camlock Quick Disconnects, Scale, RIMS tube, Plate Chiller, Chugger Pump, Super Clear Silicone Tubing, and more!
Bobby_M is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 03-27-2007, 05:36 PM   #18
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
EdWort's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bee Cave, Texas
Posts: 11,958
Liked 176 Times on 102 Posts
Likes Given: 7

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby_M
The real key to the head to head is to make it blind. Use identical opaque glasses/cups and have someone pour and mark the bottoms with a piece of tape. Taste and pick your favorite, then find out which one it is. I'm not saying it's not great, but as the brewer, you're biased.
Yep. I have SWMBO do the testing. She picked my Bavarian Hefe over a Weihenstephaner last time. She could not tell which was which, but she liked mine the best.

Congrats Lorena on great brew! I'd love to try it.
EdWort is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 03-27-2007, 06:20 PM   #19
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Pabst Blue Robot's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Puyallup, WA
Posts: 523
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

I put my DFH 90 min. to a similar test and prefered it for the same reasons, the hop boquet was just a lot fresher than the bottled version. I crash cooled mine after secondary and that helped a lot with the clarity, but it was kegged, not bottled.
__________________
This is the ORIGINAL Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer. Nature's choicest products provide its prized flavor. Only the finest of hops and grains are used. Selected as America's Best in 1893.
Pabst Blue Robot is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 03-27-2007, 06:22 PM   #20
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
zoebisch01's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Central PA
Posts: 5,199
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cweston
I wonder if the "freshness" thing is due to most homebrew being unfiltered and (especially) un-pastuerized. Even when a batch has been aging 2-3 months, it still has that "fresh" taste that commercial beers often lack.
That is a huge part of it.

Lorena, it is not arrogance. You have a valid opinion on what is good and what is not!


__________________
Event Horizon ~ A tribute to the miracle of fermentation.

Brew what you like. Do this, and you will find your inner brewer.
zoebisch01 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Oaked Arrogance Petedadink Specialty Beer 2 10-23-2008 03:39 PM



FOLLOW US ON