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Old 04-18-2011, 03:02 PM   #1
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So I bottled the Cooper's Wheat Beer kit in my sig the weekend before last. This past Saturday I pulled on for my 1-week sampling and drinking

ZERO carbination, none, nada, zilch (you get the point). Two things I did different this time:

1) Coopers carb drops: I did one per bottle like the instructions said to.
2) New gold caps. I think these may be by problem. You know how when you normally cap a beer it makes a little ring indention on the cap? Well these didn't, they stayed "dome" shaped. I have 2 or 3 that have the old style cap on them (I was using up the remainders). I'm gonna try one of them tonight.

Question: IF it is the caps can I put another coopers drop in and re-cap and be okay?

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Old 04-18-2011, 03:04 PM   #2
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It's been in the bottle about 10 days? What temperature are you storing them at?

I'd be concerned about adding more carb drops now- just in case the caps ARE sealed and it's just slow. You don't want bottle bombs!

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I've never had a carbed beer at 1 week. 2 weeks there is usually some carb, 3 weeks it's usually fully carbed, for lighter styles anyway.

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hmm.. this is my first lighter style... I swear my stout and brown ales had some carbonation after a week though, but maybe I'm mistaken. We'll see how the 2 week test looks.

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The 3 weeks at 70 degrees, that we recommend is the minimum time it takes for average gravity beers to carbonate and condition. Higher grav beers take longer.

Stouts and porters have taken me between 6 and 8 weeks to carb up..I have a 1.090 Belgian strong that took three months to carb up.

Temp and gravity are the two factors that contribute to the time it takes to carb beer. But if a beer's not ready yet, or seems low carbed, and you added the right amount of sugar to it, then it's not stalled, it's just not time yet.

Everything you need to know about carbing and conditioning, can be found here Of Patience and Bottle Conditioning. With emphasis on the word, "patience."

If a beer isn't carbed by "x number of weeks" you just have to give them ore time. If you added your sugar, then the beer will carb up eventually, it's really a foolroof process. All beers will carb up eventually. A lot of new brewers think they have to "troubleshoot" a bottling issue, when there really is none, the beer knows how to carb itself. In fact if you run beersmiths carbing calculator, some lower grav beers don't even require additional sugar to reach their minimum level of carbonation. Just time.

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I've never used the carb drops myself, but if it were my batch I would take each bottle and gently turn it end over end a few times, to make sure that the sugar in the carb drops was well mixed into the beer. Couldn't hurt (I did say gently, didn't I?).

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After a week there maybe a little carbonation, but there definitely should be some CO2 produced. Can you see a layer of yeast at the bottom of the bottle? If you think that you may have some suspect caps, give a beer a shake and see if you can hear any gas leaking from the seal.

Other than that, give them another week and check one. Patience is key, but there's nothing wrong with popping a beer open early to see what's going on.

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I have used those pills before but i never only used 1 pill, 3usually. Temperature does help the word is 75 F is the temperature you want while you are bottle conditioning. After it has reached the level of carbonation you like but them in that is 55 f

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If you think that you may have some suspect caps, give a beer a shake and see if you can hear any gas leaking from the seal.
Now that's a good idea! One beer being shaken for some peace of mind is worth it I think.
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I would just give the bottles a easy upside down and back to mix the sugar back up and then put somewhere warmer for a while. Adding more tabs would be a last resort. And just a heads up I tried opening a bottle that didn’t carb properly and once I dropped that tab it went volcano on me. Lost a good 1/3 of the bottle on everyone I tried to add another drop.

As for bens post, 1 Coopers drop is fine for 12oz normal gravity. Those other white crappy pills on the other hand take 3 or so per bottle. But they are horrible unless you like chunky beer.

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