FWIW, I used a packet of Safale 04 yesterday. My first try with a dry yeast. Obviously I used no starter, and further I didn't rehydrate. Just dumped it directly on 68 degree wort and shook it up for 4 or 5 minutes and then stuck it in my 65 degree basement. Showed bubbles in the blowoff within 3 hours, had a 1 inch krausen by bedtime, and is going full on nuts this AM.
As always, YMMV.
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I've always used a starter with dry packets. Table sugar boiled in water, then cooled. If it ain't making foam by the time it's pitch time, THEN I get nervous. It's always worked for me. Except two batchs ago, no faom, but I pitched anyhow. Had to sprinkle another packet into the carboy- which worked just fine- no starter, no hydration.
So I think it is another one of theose things HBers fret about, but isn't all that critical.
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So far, I've had more experience thinking than I've had brewing....you don't think they are mutually exclusive, do you?
57 batches so far,
33 wine, mostly Loquat, peach, plum, prickly pear
22 beers and ciders
1 sauerkraut
1 Tequila, from a prickly pear wine experiment that didn't work. I call it "Prickly Heat"
I made two batches for my Extra Pale Ale on Saturday.
The first showed little or not activity. The second I took a slightly different approach and all is well.
The first one:
I added the packet (safeale us05) of to 1 cup of boiled water cooled to 100 degrees and left it for 15 minutes. Then I added 1 tsp of cooled wort to it thinking it would be a great starter. At about 45 minutes to 1 hour it wasn't doing anything. I started a second batch.
The second one:
I added the packet to 1 cup of boiled water cooled to 100 degrees and left it for 15 minutes. The I added 1 tsp of boiled and then cooled sugar water. At 45 minutes it looked like activity and this is the one I used.
I left the first batch in a dark cabinet for 2 days and it was yet to do anything so it went down the drain..
I'm not sure if I stirred it and shouldn't have or what caused the first batch to go wrong. They were both ordered together with my kit less than a week ago. Both had the same date and everything.. It still bugs me as to what went wrong? maybe too much starsan left in container?
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I've been just dumping the yeast in the wort while I transfer to the carboy. Get about the same result as hydrating. I never do a starter. I only use dry yeast. that's the way I brew.
I've always used a starter with dry packets. Table sugar boiled in water, then cooled. If it ain't making foam by the time it's pitch time, THEN I get nervous. It's always worked for me. Except two batchs ago, no faom, but I pitched anyhow. Had to sprinkle another packet into the carboy- which worked just fine- no starter, no hydration.
So I think it is another one of theose things HBers fret about, but isn't all that critical.
Casebrew, was this on your GF brews? Because I have been thinking about making a starter with dry yeast and yeast nutrient for my GF brews because it's all I can use. Was there a benefit to doing it or would rehydrating do just as well?
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What if you were to make a 10 gallon batch and used dry yeast? Would it be harmful to make a starter and split the yeast from a dry package or should I cough up the extra $3 and buy a second package, one for each 5 gallons?
IIRC, the manufacturers of dry yeast say you should not make a starter with dry (aka "proofing," I believe). Rehydrate and pitch. nothing more needed or suggested.
IIRC, the manufacturers of dry yeast say you should not make a starter with dry (aka "proofing," I believe). Rehydrate and pitch. nothing more needed or suggested.
Thanks! I was about to make a starter with some dry D-47 and am glad I read this thread first! Thanks to all for the information!
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