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02-05-2007, 06:19 PM
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Yeast starter not fermenting
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Ok so I prepared my yeast starter by sanitizing everything, mixing 2 cups water with half cup of LME, boiling, cooling then pitching my vial of white labs irish ale yeast. The yeast is on the bottom of the jar but I don't see much krausen(virtually none) and it's been 2 days. Airlock isn't bubbling either. Is this yeast no good or is it usable?
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02-05-2007, 06:27 PM
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Try using DME next time, I have personally never made a starter with LME, but here are some questions to be addressed for addtional info.
What temp did you pitch?
What temp is the room where the starter located?
Did you aerate the bejesus out of it?
Do you see anything moving around inside the jar (i.e.) actvitiy not unlike sea monkees?
Oh yeah, the yeast needs O2, so you should not have an airlock on your vessel, it should be covered with sanitized aluminum foil.
Last edited by Glibbidy; 02-05-2007 at 06:30 PM.
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02-05-2007, 07:14 PM
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Cranky Old Guy
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Yeast starters should not go into fermentation. The purpose of a starter is to grow more yeast. Very little CO2 is produced in the process. If your starter does start fermenting, it didn't have enough O2.
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02-06-2007, 04:03 AM
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I will deff use DME next time, and although I shook the jar like crazy mabye I could have aerated it for longer. Starter wort was 75 degrees when I pitched, the yeast was mabye a few degress cooler I had taken it out of the fridge 2 hours before hand. The thermometer in the room it's located now says 68 degrees. There is activity in there, little bubbles rising from the yeast on the bottom to the surface. Any ideas or should I just get some new yeast.
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02-06-2007, 12:41 PM
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Wrap it in a blanket and ride it out til you are ready to brew which should be very soon like today.
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02-06-2007, 12:51 PM
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The activity in a starter is very minor, and it's easy to miss. I thought my first two starters were dead, but they both came out great. RWDHAHB.
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02-06-2007, 06:51 PM
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Thanks I think I will try to pitch this yeast tonight. Is there any expiration for yeast in a starter it's been 3 days now so it should still be good right, I took the airlock out and covered it with aluminum foil. Since I see some bubbles in there I am assuming it's ok right?
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02-06-2007, 09:33 PM
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Yeah, any time from 2-4 days is optimal, I believe. I usually do mine three days before brewing.
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02-08-2007, 10:38 PM
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Yeast Starter
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Wondering how to step up a starter? Is it that you let the yeast completey ferment out then chill and decant it and then add more wort? How much? in a bigger container? Sorry I just don't get the process. I want to take 2 viles of yeast an build a starter with enough cells to ferment out a IIpa with a OG 0f 1.97. I am guessing I will need approx. 720 billion cells in 9 litres? Any thoughts? I am a newbe so explain it to me like I'm a 4 year old.
Thanks,
EB
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02-08-2007, 10:51 PM
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Cranky Old Guy
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Let the yeast settle first & pour off the clear liquid. Step up the size by a factor of 4. Do not chill.
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