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Old 03-24-2009, 05:44 PM   #1
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Can you use a propagator pack directly to your wort or must you make a starter first?
I am doing an extract kit.
I should have done a lot more reading before I bought the propagator smack pack.

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Old 03-24-2009, 05:49 PM   #2
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Yes you can. They are designed to be pitchable. As the package states, open (smack) the nutrient packet 1-3 hours before you pitch. Making a starter will increase your pitch rate, but plenty of people have made great beer pitching a smack pack. I would wager most if not all homebrewers did not make a starter for their first brew, but I could be wrong.

Edit: Sorry..I didnt read thoroughly before answering. You said "Propagator" pack. This is designed to be made into a starter. I have never used these, sorry. Im sure someone has directly pitched this, but I can not attest to its success. I am making an assumption that it will be fine, but fermentation will take considerably longer. I am assuming the yeast cell count on these are low intentionally with the thought that they will reproduce in a starter before they are pitched.

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It should be fine unless your kit is high gravity. Just take it out of the fridge and smack it a few hours before you need it.

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I would wager most if not all homebrewers did not make a starter for their first brew
I didn't start using starters until I'd been brewing a few months.
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If you have any small vessel that is 1-2L in size that you cover loosely with tin foil, you could make a starter fairly easy. You will need some extra DME. If you don't any or cant get a some (1 lb) quickly from a LHBS, then dont fret. Just pitch it. it will be fine. Or save your propagator until you can use it for a starter and go buy some pitchable yeast.

You said you are doing a kit? Did the propagator come with the kit?

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A Propagator is designed for use with a starter.
I would STRONGLY recommend making one.

25. Billion cells is WAY too few.

It is hard to ruin beer but there is no good reason to take this particular chance.

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Clarifyong, If it were an Activator smack pack I'd be with you.

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Do not pitch a propagator pack, you need to make a starter. I would take some of the extract and make a starter a day before your brew you only need a small amount. Real easy if you are using DME little bit more of a pain with LME

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OK I see I am getting two opinions here. It looks like I would be OK either way. If I understand starters correctly, they are a means of multiplying the yeast. What would be the best way to make a starter with some of the LME from my kit?

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You don't need much to make a starter. The amount you use would alter your kit/brew minimally. If you are unfamiliar with starters check this out: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/start-starter-faq-2270/

If you can make it to a LHBS before you brew, it might be a better choice. Pick up either some pitchable yeast or some DME to make a starter for your propagator.

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