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Old 07-08-2011, 08:20 PM   #1
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Default WLP300 vs. WLP380

Of my 5 batches I have made, my Hefeweizen was by far my favorite. When I made it I used the following recipe with WLP300:

6 lbs. wheat malt extract
1/2 lb. wheat malt grain
1/2 lb. two-row pale malt
1/4 lb. cara-pils malt
1 oz. Hallertauer hops (bitter)

I really enjoyed the flavors in this recipe, especially the banana. It tasted exactly like No Label Brewing Company's El Hefe (from Katy, TX) which I love.

This time around, because my LHBS was out of WLP300 I got WLP380. I read that I should expect more spiciness and less banana flavor. I'm interested to see the difference, but I'd like to know which yeast others prefer and why? What are your experiences and preferences between the two?

By asking which yeast others prefer, I'm mainly asking for those who have tried both (ie. "I always use WLP300 and I like it" is not helpful). I'd like to know others' impressions of the differences, in practice.

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From WLP380 page:
"Large clove and phenolic aroma and flavor, with minimal banana."
http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/strains_wlp380.html
It seems the exact opposit to what you like.
Next time if your LHBS doesn't have WLP380, maybe you should try Safale WB-06? It's a dry hefe yeast, the most popular hefe yeast in european breweries.


I tried all the hefe yeasts out there and my favorites are:
1. WLP300
2. WB-06
I like the banana flavor in my hefe too, but I do not like too much clove and phenol. BTW, when you go AG, you are able to control those things a little better by applying a special rest schedule in the mashing process.

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My Hefe was inspired by El Hefe as well. I love the bright orange aroma they achieve.

I used WLP320 for mine, though it's still in primary so I haven't tasted it yet. I'll try to post something on it when I taste it in a week or so.

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From WLP380 page:
"Large clove and phenolic aroma and flavor, with minimal banana."
http://www.whitelabs.com/beer/strains_wlp380.html
It seems the exact opposit to what you like.
Next time if your LHBS doesn't have WLP380, maybe you should try Safale WB-06? It's a dry hefe yeast, the most popular hefe yeast in european breweries.
That's the impression I got as well (that it was opposite of what I think I is important to me in a Hefe). But as I'm new to this and still learning, I'm going to follow through with this and then do one with the WLP300 as well, to learn the difference and see how they come out. Nothing ventured, nothing gained I guess.
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My Hefe was inspired by El Hefe as well. I love the bright orange aroma they achieve.
That stuff is brilliant to me. I don't know that I get an orange aroma from it really, but I'm also not the best at describing flavors. Paulaner Hefeweizen used to by my favorite, but the El Hefe and even Rahr & Sons Hefe are much better to me. I think because they are fresher and possess an abundance of the flavors we're supposed to expect from but seem more subtle in a German hefe. My theory is that those are how German hefe's are supposed to taste, when very fresh.
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380 makes a great hefe. You wont be disappointed. I like them both. 320 has no banana or clove. I use it in my American rye.

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That stuff is brilliant to me. I don't know that I get an orange aroma from it really, but I'm also not the best at describing flavors. Paulaner Hefeweizen used to by my favorite, but the El Hefe and even Rahr & Sons Hefe are much better to me. I think because they are fresher and possess an abundance of the flavors we're supposed to expect from but seem more subtle in a German hefe. My theory is that those are how German hefe's are supposed to taste, when very fresh.
I'll let you know in October, I'm headed to Munich on business in September.

I used the 320 specifically because it had no banana or clove esters. I didn't detect them in the sample of El Hefe that I sampled. That being said, I only had a 4 oz sample so I may have missed it. I need to do the No Label tour to try a few more samples.
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I use 380 almost exclusively and I too love hefs. If you let it ferment warm enough, you will get bananas - perhaps more than you bargained for.

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I use 380 almost exclusively and I too love hefs. If you let it ferment warm enough, you will get bananas - perhaps more than you bargained for.
Suggested temp? I usually keep my water bath 62-65.
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Suggested temp? I usually keep my water bath 62-65.
Water bath? Is that a method for cooling your fermenter? I know I'm off topic here but that is something I'm looking for.
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