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Old 04-28-2011, 10:52 PM   #11
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Allow me to sum up homebrewing in a way that cannot be thought of as 'dickish' -

Ask 20 home brewers how to do a process, and you'll get more than 20 answers.

If it makes decent...nay...good beer...its the correct method. Period.

I love my secondary...most of the time...but I'll skip it at least 1/3 the time simply because the beer is too dark to matter if there's any yeast haze.

There's only a handful of definititve 'truths' in homebrewing, and even many of those are getting muddled with new inventive methods, equipment and ingredients.

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Old 04-28-2011, 11:19 PM   #12
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We were all once new to this hobby, so let's not get sideways about newer folks who give us the privilege of weighing in on their questions instead of only searching through the archives. This can be a confusing hobby at times, and there is no reason to get short with folks who just want to do it right. :-).

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Old 04-29-2011, 01:10 AM   #13
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Transferring fermented wort to a secondary fermenter just gives you another chance to induce oxidation, infection, etc. I won't do it unless I have a very good reason.

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Old 04-29-2011, 01:18 AM   #14
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Conventional wisdom used to be that racking to secondary improved the beer in various ways. Lots of scientific reasons were given. Blind tastings have pretty much shown this not to be the case.

http://www.byo.com/component/resourc...harm-your-beer

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Old 04-29-2011, 04:07 AM   #15
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I've been through many threads and alot of them just state they don't use them or that they do use a secondary Simply to start another brew. They don't give an explanation as to why. So I started the thread to get an exact answer. I figured it gave the brew a better flavor if you leave it in the primary. I am a newbie gathering info. No need to be an d!ck about it. I'm just learning.
When people do not give you the answer you want to hear, try not to think of them as a 'd!ck'. They might just teach you something.

Realizing this comes with maturity, a point that you have clearly not reached. Give it time.

Revvys point is that there is lots of info on why a secondary is a pointless exercise in almost all cases - perhaps you need to look harder, and stop being a d!ck about it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Old 04-29-2011, 05:00 AM   #16
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Rather than starting ANOTHER thread about this, why don't you just read what's already beer written? It's not like there's no info available...

This is your best source.

I mean, in most of the threads where the "seasoned brewers" say they don't use them, they usually explain why.
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I've been through many threads and alot of them just state they don't use them or that they do use a secondary Simply to start another brew. They don't give an explanation as to why. So I started the thread to get an exact answer. I figured it gave the brew a better flavor if you leave it in the primary. I am a newbie gathering info. No need to be an d!ck about it. I'm just learning.
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Revvy's not being a d!ck. It's just that this question has been asked hundreds of times. There are hundreds of threads dealing with it - it's been done to death. We appreciate that you are new and are learning - we were all there once. And when I was a newbie one of the best pieces of advice I was given was "Search is your friend." Most, if not all, questions you have can be answered by using the search function.

Welcome to the obsession!

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Just a suggestion for the future, both here and for any other message board you visit: There is usually a FAQ located in a handy and obvious place, often a whole section of 'sticky' posts (posts always sectioned off at the top). In this case, it's right at the top of the Beginners forum. Can't miss it. The FAQ covers all the basics. Your question, in fact, is just the seventh on the list.

Also in that informational section, just a few links down is another handy link with details about what you're asking.

The first thing you should do on any message board, no matter the subject, is to seek that section and read it.

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We were all once new to this hobby, so let's not get sideways about newer folks who give us the privilege of weighing in on their questions instead of only searching through the archives. This can be a confusing hobby at times, and there is no reason to get short with folks who just want to do it right. :-).
No reason to jump on his case if he is asking a question. There is a reason forum is called the "BEGINNER BEER BREWING FORUM". Let the beginners ask beginner questions in this forum. It;s not like he is asking it in the all grain forum.

If you get annoyed by repeating answers to beginner questions over and over again, maybe you should just not post in this "BEGINNER Beer brewing forum".
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Old 04-29-2011, 12:37 PM   #17
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No reason to jump on his case if he is asking a question. There is a reason forum is called the "BEGINNER BEER BREWING FORUM". Let the beginners ask beginner questions in this forum. It;s not like he is asking it in the all grain forum.

If you get annoyed by repeating answers to beginner questions over and over again, maybe you should just not post in this "BEGINNER Beer brewing forum".
If a polite, helpful, and informative "just as suggestion" post is the same to you as jumping on someone's case, I can't imagine how thin your skin must be. Either that or you just didn't read my post. If you did, you'd see that lumping me in with "jumping on his case" or suggesting I was annoyed is preposterous.
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Old 04-29-2011, 12:59 PM   #18
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Revvy really needs to ignore these threads.

New posters often don't know about the search function; nothing wrong with telling them to use it.

Other people should develop thicker skin.

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Old 04-29-2011, 01:00 PM   #19
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When people do not give you the answer you want to hear, try not to think of them as a 'd!ck'. They might just teach you something.

Realizing this comes with maturity, a point that you have clearly not reached. Give it time.

Revvys point is that there is lots of info on why a secondary is a pointless exercise in almost all cases - perhaps you need to look harder, and stop being a d!ck about it. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I was not being a d!ck about it. Only trying to learn. The way he came off was d!ckish and I didn't appreciate it. I don't understand why you even post if you are going to be negative. If you don't wan to answer the question then move on to the next thread.
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Old 04-29-2011, 01:31 PM   #20
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