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Beerhooker 04-28-2011 06:13 PM

On alot of post most of the more seasoned brewers say don't use a secondary. Why is this?

MalFet 04-28-2011 06:30 PM

I'd put it the other way: Why use one?

coypoo 04-28-2011 06:31 PM

Waste of time, energy, clean up, etc. Unless its a big beer (>1100ish) I wont secondary at all. Just 4-6 weeks in primary and then cold crash and its good to go

beerkrump 04-28-2011 06:38 PM

The reason to use a secondary is to remove the inactive yeast from the beer.

In large scale breweries, this is done because the volume of beer in the fermenter applies great pressure upon the yeast. Yeast under stress die and autolyze causing off flavors.

Since this isn't a problem for the home brewer, secondary fermenters serve another purpose. This practice comes into play when aging a beer for an extended period of time(which can be done in the bottle) or when adding fruit or oak as a post fermentation flavoring agent.

Many brewers like using secondary fermenters and there is nothing wrong with them. Just many of us see it as an unneeded step.

Zixxer10R 04-28-2011 06:45 PM

The way i was explained to was this: for new people the secondary fermenter is used primarily as a means to start your second brew quicker if you don't want to wait the whole amount of time to finish your first batch.

Basically the carboy becomes not necessarily a secondary fermenter as much as another primary fermenter. Hope that's clear as mud.

Revvy 04-28-2011 06:47 PM

Rather than starting ANOTHER thread about this, why don't you just read what's already beer written? It's not like there's no info available...

This is your best source.

I mean, in most of the threads where the "seasoned brewers" say they don't use them, they usually explain why.

Beerhooker 04-28-2011 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revvy
Rather than starting ANOTHER thread about this, why don't you just read what's already beer written? It's not like there's no info available...

This is your best source.

I mean, in most of the threads where the "seasoned brewers" say they don't use them, they usually explain why.

I've been through many threads and alot of them just state they don't use them or that they do use a secondary Simply to start another brew. They don't give an explanation as to why. So I started the thread to get an exact answer. I figured it gave the brew a better flavor if you leave it in the primary. I am a newbie gathering info. No need to be an d!ck about it. I'm just learning.

Beerhooker 04-28-2011 07:46 PM

Thank you guys. With every question I ask and with ever answer I become more knowledgeable and in turn become a better brewer.

Skinner 04-28-2011 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerhooker (Post 2878715)
No need to be an d!ck about it. I'm just learning.

Revvy's not being a d!ck. It's just that this question has been asked hundreds of times. There are hundreds of threads dealing with it - it's been done to death. We appreciate that you are new and are learning - we were all there once. And when I was a newbie one of the best pieces of advice I was given was "Search is your friend." Most, if not all, questions you have can be answered by using the search function.

Welcome to the obsession!

Cheers!
K

Shoegaze99 04-28-2011 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerhooker (Post 2878715)
I've been through many threads and alot of them just state they don't use them or that they do use a secondary Simply to start another brew. They don't give an explanation as to why. So I started the thread to get an exact answer. I figured it gave the brew a better flavor if you leave it in the primary. I am a newbie gathering info. No need to be an d!ck about it. I'm just learning.

Just a suggestion for the future, both here and for any other message board you visit: There is usually a FAQ located in a handy and obvious place, often a whole section of 'sticky' posts (posts always sectioned off at the top). In this case, it's right at the top of the Beginners forum. Can't miss it. The FAQ covers all the basics. Your question, in fact, is just the seventh on the list.

Also in that informational section, just a few links down is another handy link with details about what you're asking.

The first thing you should do on any message board, no matter the subject, is to seek that section and read it.

Cheers.


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