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Old 01-10-2013, 04:05 AM   #1
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Default why does my 100ibu taste way more bitter than commercial 100ibu?

Check the title.

This beer tastes like I'm chewing on a hop cone. I like a good iipa. This is too much.
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:05 AM   #2
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Old 01-10-2013, 04:18 AM   #3
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Did I read 14 oz of high Alpha Acid hops in a 5 gallon batch? If so, there is your answer... just too much hops (I can't believe I typed that!)

The most I've ever done is 9 oz of.hops and that was a delicious overkill. 14 just seems wasteful IMO.

I commend you for being daring! Sorry it didnt turn out as you wanted. Next time try about half of the amount and you should be good to go.

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Old 01-10-2013, 04:22 AM   #4
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Wait... I see now... it was 10 oz. Still a lot of hops at ~14% AA. I would tone it down a bit. Use a few less oz and/or maybe switch in a few lower AA% hops. Maybe Cascade would be a good altenative to mix with the citra... I really like that combo... in fact I'm enjoying a nice homebrew NWPA with columbus, chinook, cascade and citra. Total of 6 oz I believe and it is really crisp and hoppy.

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Balance. What was your fg? You need some sweetness to back up the bitterness. A few months of aging will mellow this out a little.

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Old 01-10-2013, 04:45 AM   #6
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Beersmith should account for the aa right?
This is gonna be my first batch down the drain. Can't do it. Need to clear the keg for another beer in 2 weeks.
Any local drunks want free beer to go?
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Bitterness perception depends also on water, especially sulfate level.
Brew two same beers, one with high sulfate water and other with low, 1st one will have stronger bitterness taste.

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IBU calculations and measured IBU can be quite different

You get a lot more bitterness from late additions and dry hopping than the calcs tell you as well.

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Beersmith isn't the greatest at accuracy with IBUs (calculated vs. reality). As pointed out above, water can be the issue. Also, you should balance your bitterness more with sweetness (higher mash temp or use of crystal malts or something similar). Finally, use this beer as your starting point for understanding how beersmith calculates. Clearly 100 IBU is your top range. You could try the same brew but recalculate for 75-80 and see if that is what you are after. Hope this helps

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I made a recipe that was nearly identical in hop schedule. I wonder if that ounce at 60 minutes was a FWH that the perceived bitterness would have been more enjoyable.

Could it also never three flavor of the citra? Its pretty unique in flavor, so maybe thats part of the issue.

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