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Old 12-07-2012, 04:59 AM   #111
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....My goal as a new homebrewer is to really open the eyes of some of my friends who are hardcore about BMC and show them that there is so much more to beer...
I'm not trying to be rude so please don't take it that way. If that is your goal as a homebrewer prepare to be disappointed. I say that because many people who are "hardcore about BMC" are that way, again, because they like it. I have a few friends who are BMC type fans, and they don't like homebrew, it's "too heavy". Hey, that's fine, to each their own. Your goal should be to have a good time making good beer and learning more about beer in general.

I'm a fairly new brewer myself (8 batches down on the newer rig, not counting Mr. beer and other experiments prior to that) and learned the number 1 rule is to brew for yourself. I JUST brewed a beer my GF likes (was batch 6, our xmas gift to friends/family) so if I was brewing for others I'd be discouraged quickly.

I hope your friends enjoy your brew, but if they don't, be not offended.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:02 AM   #112
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I'm not trying to be rude so please don't take it that way. If that is your goal as a homebrewer prepare to be disappointed. I saw that because many people who are "hardcore about BMC" are that way, again, because they like it. I have a few friends who are BMC type fans, and they don't like homebrew, it's "too heavy". Hey, that's fine, to each their own. Your goal should be to have a good time making good beer and learning more about beer in general.

I'm a fairly new brewer myself (8 batches down on the newer rig, not counting Mr. beer and other experiments prior to that) and learned the number 1 rule is to brew for yourself. I JUST brewed a beer my GF likes (was batch 6, our xmas gift to friends/family) so if I was brewing for others I'd be discouraged quickly.

I hope your friends enjoy your brew, but if they don't, be not offended.
no worries dude. i wouldn't be offended as this is a hobby for me. just like working on my car or making beef jerky is a hobby of mine, so is homebrewing now. its exciting and lots of fun. even if friends or family don't enjoy my brew, i will. i do want some of my friends to realize the potential of other beer out there but i highly doubt my 1 batch of homebrew would change their minds.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:58 AM   #113
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I thought about this on the drive home. I think you have a 1 dimensional understanding about what a lager is.....

I suggest that if you want to try a lager that is rich, hearty, with spice and punch that you try one of these beers;

Celebrator Doppelbock.
I picked up a 4-pack of this a couple of weeks ago to try it for the first time.

Wow.

I was blown away. This is the best beer I've ever had. There was something otherworldly about it - it just elevates the whole beer drinking experience to another level I never even knew existed. It doesn't hurt that I had just finished reading the chapter on Bocks in Daniels' "Designing Great Beers," so I was giddy while explaining the meaning of the goat trinket draped around the neck of the bottle, and the 2 goats on the label, to my wife. She wasn't as fascinated as I was.

I can't wait to try this beer again. Everything about it was perfect.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:18 PM   #114
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not saying that ppl are too stupid to read between the lines or too stupid to know what they want/like.

why is it that these ppl actually buy this kind of beer though? taste? price? advertising? i think its all 3 but the price being the most significant that drives the masses to buy this kind of beer.
It's not price though. In Nova Scotia I'd pay 24 and change for 12 Keith's/Blue/Bud. I'd pay 25 for 2 6's of the local craft/micro. In Nova Scotia Keith's is said to outsell all other brands 2-1. It's a fizzy yellow "ale".

Marketing has taught most people that a good beer is cold and wet, nothing more. The coldest and wettest wins. Things like flavours, aromas and visual presentation aren't factors.
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Old 12-07-2012, 12:22 PM   #115
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What the hell is BMC?

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Old 12-07-2012, 12:30 PM   #116
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What the hell is BMC?
It's the catch all phrase for mass market lagers/light lagers. it comes from how a waitress in a non craft beer bar, when ased what they have on tap, starts the litany "Bud/Miller/Coors/Bud light/Miller Light/Coors Light...." In just about every bar that is EXACTLY how it is somewhat mindlessly repeated.

I usually ask them to start from the bottom of the list, because that's normally going to be where I find the beer closest to what I'd like to drink, which in a bmc type bar would usually be Guinness, Killian's or if we're lucky Sam Adams, or at least Stella.

But usually that confuses the heck out of them, because they say it the other way a thousand times a day.
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Bud Miller Coors
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I picked up a 4-pack of this a couple of weeks ago to try it for the first time.

Wow.

I was blown away. This is the best beer I've ever had. There was something otherworldly about it - it just elevates the whole beer drinking experience to another level I never even knew existed. It doesn't hurt that I had just finished reading the chapter on Bocks in Daniels' "Designing Great Beers," so I was giddy while explaining the meaning of the goat trinket draped around the neck of the bottle, and the 2 goats on the label, to my wife. She wasn't as fascinated as I was.

I can't wait to try this beer again. Everything about it was perfect.
Yep....great beer. Ayinger is class.
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Aha. I see. Thanks!! Reminds me of an old, old joke....

Arthur Guinness, Adolph Coors, Fred Miller, and Adolphus Busch all went into a bar.

Mr. Coors ordered a Coors, of course.
Mr. Miller ordered a High Life.
Mr. Busch ordered a Bud.
Mr. Guinness ordered a Sprite.

Astounded, all three men stared at Arthur and said "Surely YOU of all people would want a beer, sir?" to which Mr. Guinness shrugged and said "Well, you guys aren't drinking, so neither am I..."

heehee

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Aha. I see. Thanks!! Reminds me of an old, old joke....

Arthur Guinness, Adolph Coors, Fred Miller, and Adolphus Busch all went into a bar.

Mr. Coors ordered a Coors, of course.
Mr. Miller ordered a High Life.
Mr. Busch ordered a Bud.
Mr. Guinness ordered a Sprite.

Astounded, all three men stared at Arthur and said "Surely YOU of all people would want a beer, sir?" to which Mr. Guinness shrugged and said "Well, you guys aren't drinking, so neither am I..."

heehee
Guinness should have ordered some charcoal and milk regurgitated by a
diseased hippo.
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