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Old 06-27-2007, 04:35 AM   #1
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First post=first stress out problem

Hello everyone,
Long time reader, first time poster. Please forgive the rambling post, I am exhausted after todays brewing sesh.

I am on my third batch, but since the other two were very forgiving imperial stouts (no need to worry about clarity!) I am feeling like a first timer all over again.

I upgraded to a 6.5gallon glass carboy, so I am aware of just how badly I screwed up when I brewed today.

I used Ballast Point/Homebrewmart's extract w/specialty grain clone recipe for their own Dorado Double IPA

On their suggestion, I did late addition of DME (including a controversial 40min with only hops and specialty wort). Any thoughts on this by the way?

I used whirlfloc for the first time. Not going to lie, not sure how this will play outl

My big mistake came when I poured my wort into the carboy, because I couldn't use my big strainer/filter I had to use a relatively small funnel and tiny filter. Clogged in less then a second. I ended up pouring EVERYTHING in as I panicked about contamination. As a result I have almost all of my trub in the fermentor. I used a liquid yeast starter and poured in the entire 18 ounces because i didn't want to lose one cell for this high gravity beer. I never had so much trub with my imp stouts!

To cut to the chase, I have a fairly high gravity beer with a carboy that obviously contains several inches of trub. I wasn't planning on secondary fermentation (don't have a 5g carboy) but should I buy one just for this? I don't want to waste all the time and money.

I know I lost my planned clarity, but just how bad could it taste with huge amounts of trub at the bottom of the carboy? This will probably require an update on the status of the fermentation to accurately determine how soon my yeast crap out in this harsh environment I have created for the poor little guys.


Thanks in advance,



David


PS, any advice on sanitizing my giant tubing for the blowoff valve. I plan to attach it as soon as primary starts to take off. Should I attach it before that? I am scared of the whole vacuum thing.

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Old 06-27-2007, 05:12 AM   #2
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First post=first stress out problem

Hello everyone,
Long time reader, first time poster. Please forgive the rambling post, I am exhausted after todays brewing sesh.

I am on my third batch, but since the other two were very forgiving imperial stouts (no need to worry about clarity!) I am feeling like a first timer all over again.

I upgraded to a 6.5gallon glass carboy, so I am aware of just how badly I screwed up when I brewed today.

I used Ballast Point/Homebrewmart's extract w/specialty grain clone recipe for their own Dorado Double IPA

On their suggestion, I did late addition of DME (including a controversial 40min with only hops and specialty wort). Any thoughts on this by the way?

I used whirlfloc for the first time. Not going to lie, not sure how this will play outl

My big mistake came when I poured my wort into the carboy, because I couldn't use my big strainer/filter I had to use a relatively small funnel and tiny filter. Clogged in less then a second. I ended up pouring EVERYTHING in as I panicked about contamination. As a result I have almost all of my trub in the fermentor. I used a liquid yeast starter and poured in the entire 18 ounces because i didn't want to lose one cell for this high gravity beer. I never had so much trub with my imp stouts!

To cut to the chase, I have a fairly high gravity beer with a carboy that obviously contains several inches of trub. I wasn't planning on secondary fermentation (don't have a 5g carboy) but should I buy one just for this? I don't want to waste all the time and money.

I know I lost my planned clarity, but just how bad could it taste with huge amounts of trub at the bottom of the carboy? This will probably require an update on the status of the fermentation to accurately determine how soon my yeast crap out in this harsh environment I have created for the poor little guys.


Thanks in advance,



David


PS, any advice on sanitizing my giant tubing for the blowoff valve. I plan to attach it as soon as primary starts to take off. Should I attach it before that? I am scared of the whole vacuum thing.


WOW...yoy REALLY need to RDWDAHB!!! Beleive it or not...it all sounds VERY normal to me. First of all, there is almost no need to leave any behind on an extract batch. There is VERY little trub in the pot. Second, now that you have a glass carboy, you can see it working. That huge mess throughout the carboy you are calling trub will be there EVERY batch! That is all the particulates seperating out. They will all fall to the bottom eventually. You are seeing the magic of fermentation. I really like using a secondary for clarifying, but if you leave it in the primary for about 3 weeks, and use a bottling bucket to siphon to before bottling and don't let the beer get too far down before stopping the siphon (or siphon tubing intot he yeast cake), you will get pretty clear beer. Late malt addition = good job. 18 oz yeast with starter = good job. I am not sure what you were reading, but you did fine. I always pour my whole starter in the batch as well. If you are worried about blowoff, put the tube on now and the open end into a glass of water below the carboy. Then when you see the krausen (yes, there will be a layer at the top in a couple of days of more gunk) start to mellow and fall, switch to a regular airlock setup.

For sanitizing tubing, I have a wall paper tray or you can use a drywall tray. This is a great way to sanitize all the small stuff (bottle filler, tubing, auto-siphon, bags, ........)Just dunk and let is soak for a bit.
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Old 06-27-2007, 05:25 AM   #3
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Yeah, you will be alright. That trub will fall after fermentation is over and it seems to compact some too. How are your fermentation temps. Keep them between 65-70 if you can. Don't rack it to early, let it go for 10 days. I would use a secondary as it helps clarify the brew.

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Old 06-27-2007, 05:26 AM   #4
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I think you are right about my need to RDWDAHB!!! Thanks for validating my starter/late malt additon, I feel better already. You know you are stressed when you anxiously refresh to see if anyone has responded.

As far as the trub/sediment, I think it is mostly hops as it was quite green. I used pellets and I hear they make for a mess. I am not so much referring to general sediment in suspension; I am more concerned about 4 inches of solid looking stuff at the bottom. I guess it should settle to less though right? I will try and get a picture up soon.

Thanks for your help!

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I use muslin bags every time to keep hop trub out. 4" is a lot but what could have gotten into there that should not be there? It is all good, my friend.

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Old 06-27-2007, 06:08 AM   #6
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Here are some crude pics of what I am talking about.

Also, I am going to guess it is normal when using a starter to see a few airlock burps in the first few hours which die down before the real fireworks begin? I had some bubbling very rapidly which seems to have diminished in the past three hours.





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Old 06-27-2007, 06:38 AM   #7
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Looks like everything is going fine. Just give it some time to work.

At least it looks like your able to keep the temperture where you want it. I live about 5 blocks from homebrewmart and my carboy is in a Keg Tub full of water to keep it around 68 degrees.

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Old 06-27-2007, 06:43 AM   #8
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Looks like everything is going fine. Just give it some time to work.

At least it looks like your able to keep the temperture where you want it. I live about 5 blocks from homebrewmart and my carboy is in a Keg Tub full of water to keep it around 68 degrees.

I am officially embarrassed at my overreaction.

Incidentally, my temp is ok because some of the rooms in my house are right on the slope of Mt Soledad and the temp is quite steady.


Thanks again,

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Old 06-27-2007, 07:12 AM   #9
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Hey D. If you need to borrow a 5 gallon carboy, I've got two that I don't really use yet, so you're welcome to borrow one. I live in North Park.

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Old 06-27-2007, 07:46 AM   #10
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Thanks! I might take you up on that. I'll let you know. It would certainly entitle you to a bomber! Hopefully this is a selling point fingers crossed.


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