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Old 10-26-2007, 09:25 PM   #1
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Default When to transfer from primary to secondary

I've been reading everything I can find.
Threads on this board, howtobrew.com, books I have, etc. and I can't seem to get a clear idea on this.

And it seems like it's a big debate for many

I even saw someone recently suggest a 1-2-3 approach, 1 week in primary, 2 in secondary, and 3 in bottles.

So, is it best to transfer to the secondary based on time or based on a stable specific gravity?

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I'm adding this to the FAQ thread. So any good advice please add it.
Thanks.

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Old 10-26-2007, 09:34 PM   #2
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Stable gravity is the way, and it's usually so after about 10 days given average OG and ferment temp.

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Old 10-27-2007, 12:29 AM   #3
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1-2-3 is a guideline many people use, but the best way to determine when to go to secondary is to take a gravity reading.

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Old 10-27-2007, 12:42 AM   #4
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I do it as soon as I have a stable gravity for a couple of days. Then leave it in the secondary at least 10 days. Depending on the brew.

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Thanks much guys.

That was what I thought would be best/correct.

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I've stopped going to secondary unless I have reason to do so.
I think it's better to stick with 1-2-3 until you have the experience to judge your self.

I also think that 1-2-3 is x1 x2 x3 where 1 is the time it takes to ferment.
So if it takes 10 days to ferment it is 10day, 20day, 30days.

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Some people do not use a hydrometer (like myself) and use the 1-2-3 method as a rule of thumb. I have not done any heavy beers and 1 week in primary has always been good. You will need to adjust accordingly depending on the style of beer and how soon the yeast starts doing it's thing. The "right way" is to use the hydrometer to tell when it is ready, but the good news is you can do it anyway YOU want.

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The "right way" is to use the hydrometer to tell when it is ready, but the good news is you can do it anyway YOU want.
Provided you're making ales that have an OG of 1.040-1.060. You start doing much heavier, or making lagers, while not using a hydrometer is asking for some bottle bombs.

And for the reader, yes, bottle bombs do actually explode, send glass everywhere, and cause you to lose beer. . Plus, if they don't all explode, they're terrifying as hell to "empty" if you want to save the rest of your bottles.
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The gravity method works best, but myself I give it three weeks in the primary before I transfer it over. Then I know everything is done... plus it gives it a chance to settle a little more before the secondary.

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When I take my brewing notes I'll write down the OG.

In parenthesis I'll divide that number by 4 (for 75% attenuation)and that should be my FG......this way my pre-math is done and all I have to do is look at my OG line for a possible FG.

If the FG is hit then it's time to rack.

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