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Old 04-18-2013, 04:11 PM   #1
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Default What hops to use for my next APA

I would like suggestions from folks about what hops to use from my next attempt at an APA.

To give some background and information, APAs are hit or miss for me because I often feel like the hop flavor (and sometimes bitterness level) is overpowering and offensive to my palate. I don't like the grapefruit and pine flavors imparted by many of the traditional APA hops. My solution so far has been to make what I call a German American PA, using noble hops. I have that recipe pretty dialed in and enjoy it. But, I would like to try to make a more traditional APA that has citrus flavor and aroma but not an overpowering grapefruit flavor (and I would like to avoid the pine flavor all together).

So, with that background, what hops would people recommend I try for flavor and aroma additions (I am planning to use Columbus hops for bittering)?

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Old 04-18-2013, 04:13 PM   #2
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My favorite flavor hop is centennial. Cascades are also good. For that piney flavor, maybe try some chinook

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My favorite flavor hop is centennial. Cascades are also good. For that piney flavor, maybe try some chinook
Thanks. Like I said, I DON'T want that piney flavor. I have dry hopped a hef with Centennial and liked the result. Don't Cascade hops have some piney resin flavor too?
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Cascade or more citrusy, grapefruit. It you don't like the overwhelming flavors and bitterness of an APA just dial down the IBUs. BJCP guidelines say 30-45 so I'd try something around 30 IBUs. Maybe just 60, 10, and 0 additions?

Or if you don't dig the flavor of American Pale Ales (of which Cascade is kind of the classic go to variety) you could lean towards a English Pale Ale. I really like EKG hops.

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Cascade or more citrusy, grapefruit. It you don't like the overwhelming flavors and bitterness of an APA just dial down the IBUs. BJCP guidelines say 30-45 so I'd try something around 30 IBUs. Maybe just 60, 10, and 0 additions?

Or if you don't dig the flavor of American Pale Ales (of which Cascade is kind of the classic go to variety) you could lean towards a English Pale Ale. I really like EKG hops.
Thanks. It's not the bitterness issue. My German American PA is within the bitterness range of an APA (and I make a German Alt that Beersmith puts at 46 IBUs). The issue is more about the flavor; and the issue is with the grapefruit/pine flavor. My understanding is that there are hops that are citrusy without tending towards grapefruit. What I am trying to do is get a better sense of what hops those are.
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centennial and cascade -- love the combo!

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Try Amarillo. Similar citrus to cascade but without the grapefruit. Higher AA% as well.

Since you seem to have your bittering already dialed in, maybe a late addition combo of Amarillo and willamette might work well with what you are aiming for.

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Ah I mis read. I'd go with centennial. Love that hop. Perhaps some English hops as well, as was mentioned. EKG is a nice hop, Fuggles are also good. Some people hate them but I like them.

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My vote would be Citra (mango to my taster) or Amarillo (possibly more orange) or a combination of the two.

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Thanks for the advice. What about Citra? I've heard people say that has a citrus/tropical fruit flavor.

I had noted Amarillo as an option, but I know it can be hard to get. . .

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