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08-22-2011, 07:42 PM
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What happens if you don't crush your grains enough?
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Doing my first partial mash today and I'm worried that I didn't break up my grains enough. Had to crush crystal malt and some toasted pilsner malt. I used a wine bottle on a cookie sheet. How big an effect will this have on my wort?
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08-22-2011, 07:47 PM
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It'll reduce your efficiency and flavor contribution from the grain. Investing in a mill, or having your grain milled by a local shop or online retailer are going to be much more effective at giving you a consistent product.
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08-22-2011, 07:50 PM
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Reduced as in my beer will be ****ty or reduced as in not as awesome as it should be?
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08-22-2011, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcaneXor
It'll reduce your efficiency and flavor contribution from the grain. Investing in a mill, or having your grain milled by a local shop or online retailer are going to be much more effective at giving you a consistent product.
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+1. Go ahead and buy a grain mill if you can swing $125 to $150. I recommend the Barley Crusher.
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08-22-2011, 07:54 PM
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If you get 30-40 % eff it's going to be like water.
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08-22-2011, 08:03 PM
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Reduced as in my beer will be ****ty or reduced as in not as awesome as it should be?
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It'll be thin and more hoppy than you had expected.
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08-22-2011, 08:08 PM
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The result will depend on how much extract you used relative to the grains. If it doesn't turn out the way you want, you can just add more fermentables later.
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08-22-2011, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcaneXor
The result will depend on how much extract you used relative to the grains. If it doesn't turn out the way you want, you can just add more fermentables later.
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How do I add more fermentables? How do I know if I need to? I'm making an IPA.
5 1/2 lbs DME
1lb crystal malt
1/2lb pilsner malt.
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08-22-2011, 08:31 PM
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How do I add more fermentables? How do I know if I need to? I'm making an IPA.
5 1/2 lbs DME
1lb crystal malt
1/2lb pilsner malt.
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Looks like the bulk of your fermentables will come from the DME anyway, so you may not have to worry very much. Take a gravity reading before you chill the wort (making sure to adjust for the temperature difference). Compare the reading to the OG your recipe says you'll have. If it's close, you are okay. If you feel it's too low, you could add extra DME, LME, or even a little sugar to add to the fermentables.
The reason I suggest doing this before you chill is because then you should be able to simply add the extra sugar straight to the wort and it will dissolve. If you chill first, you might have to boil the sugar in a little water to dissolve it before adding to the wort. That's okay too though.
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08-22-2011, 08:35 PM
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Is this a 5 gallon batch?
You are pretty light on your malt totals. You should target a OG of 1.060-1070 range for an IPA. You're on the bottom tier of IPA (about 1.055) here.
Maybe add another lb of light DME?
But yeah lower malt efficiency means a lower starting gravity (less fermentables) which means less for the yeast to eat... and if you put in a traditional IPA hop bill, it will be unbalanced. If you reached your est. OG, then I imagine all is well.
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