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Old 04-11-2012, 12:57 AM   #11
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I use S-04 a lot, and I tend to use it at low temps. Just a tad lower than stated on the package. I ferment low like that for the first two days, then bump it up about 2 degrees the next day, and another 2-4 over the next two days to finish things off. All of my beers come out pretty nice and clean. I am a big fan of this yeast.

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Old 04-11-2012, 02:27 AM   #12
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I use S-04 a lot, and I tend to use it at low temps. Just a tad lower than stated on the package. I ferment low like that for the first two days, then bump it up about 2 degrees the next day, and another 2-4 over the next two days to finish things off. All of my beers come out pretty nice and clean. I am a big fan of this yeast.

+1. I try too ferment about at 64-65 degrees at first, raise it over time as you do.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:52 PM   #13
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I was wondering the same think. I was tempted to split a batch into two carboys and ferment one with 04 and one with 05. Then I worried about pitching too much yeast into each!!!
I also don't really have the space to have 2 fermenting at once either!

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Old 04-11-2012, 01:01 PM   #14
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I was wondering the same think. I was tempted to split a batch into two carboys and ferment one with 04 and one with 05. Then I worried about pitching too much yeast into each!!!
I also don't really have the space to have 2 fermenting at once either!
I might try that an a bigger beer, probably a barley wine, do a pack for each, have an American and an English barleywine
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Old 04-11-2012, 01:56 PM   #15
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I've been using a lot of S04 lately. I ferment at 62-64 and it is clean. Slightly higher FG for a slightly sweeter beer, the flavor is a little different than 05, but not overwhelmingly so. I used in a tweaked version of my Pale Ale that I used 05 with last time, getting ready to bottle now.

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Old 04-11-2012, 06:40 PM   #16
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im 13 days into a Scottish 60 using us04, took SG last nite and a little taste. As said, it finishes at a little higher FG (im holding steady at .013 from .038) and the maris otter really comes through, reaaallly malty, but even at 12 days was nearly crystal clear. Id go back to 04 for an english ale

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Old 04-11-2012, 06:59 PM   #17
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US-05 and Nottingham are very similar, and there's good reason for that -- reputedly, Sierra Nevada got their yeast from Ballantine, who used Nottingham.

http://www.tastybrew.com/forum/thread/44527

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us-05 for american ales, notty and 04 for english styles. I have not used 04, but greatly prefer 05 to Notty.
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I use 04 and 05 in most of my brews. Yes, there is a distinct taste difference. The 04 yields higher FG's and is less "clean" than the 05 (more esters). I happen to love English Ales and therefore 04 is my go-to yeast.

Maris Otter + S04 = awesome results.
If I ferment S04 at under 64, it's preferable to me over the S05 at the same temperature. I don't get fruity esters at a cool temp with S04, while I do get some "peach" with S05 at cool temperatures. At those cool temps, I love S04 for even American APAs, as it drops clear and leaves a very clear beer quickly while S05 seems to have a yeast haze for much longer.

I used to use nottingham more often, but haven't used it in over a year since the problems they had with quality control.

For temps over 65 degrees, my preference for American style ales is S05 because it stays clean from 65 up to about 72 or so.
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If I ferment S04 at under 64, it's preferable to me over the S05 at the same temperature. I don't get fruity esters at a cool temp with S04, while I do get some "peach" with S05 at cool temperatures. At those cool temps, I love S04 for even American APAs, as it drops clear and leaves a very clear beer quickly while S05 seems to have a yeast haze for much longer.

I used to use nottingham more often, but haven't used it in over a year since the problems they had with quality control.

For temps over 65 degrees, my preference for American style ales is S05 because it stays clean from 65 up to about 72 or so.
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