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Old 09-21-2009, 07:11 PM   #1
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Default Two packs Wyeast instead of starter?

My next beer will be a double I.P.A. with a starting gravity of around 1083. Rather than make a starter, would it work to just pitch two pouches of Wyeat #1056? Yes it would cost a bit more, I was just wondering if there were any potential problems doing it.

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Old 09-21-2009, 07:13 PM   #2
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Thats what I did with mine. 2 packs of (hydrated) wyeast and all went woosh.

Smells so damned tasty!
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:24 PM   #3
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From a strictly technical sense, 3 very fresh packs would give you the ideal pitching rate, but 2 packs is a whole lot better than one. Especially with an IIPA where you really need good attenuation. Oxygenate/aerate very well and pitch 2-3 packs.

EDIT: Make sure you get the freshest packs possible, if you're pitching directly from the tube you want as high of a viability as you can get. The freshness date on the package is 4 months after the production date, so if you can find some vials with an expiration in January you'll be in pretty good shape.

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Old 09-21-2009, 08:31 PM   #4
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From a strictly technical sense, 3 very fresh packs would give you the ideal pitching rate,
+1 on that.
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:45 PM   #5
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Jamil's pitching rate calculator says you should pitch 4 packs or make a 2.7 l starter with 2 packs or a 4.4 l starter with one pack. (assuming a 5.5 gallon batch)

http://www.mrmalty.com/calc/calc.html

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DME + Stirplate FTW! A big brew from a single smack pack.

Multiple Wyeast/White Labs gets expensive fast...

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Jamil's pitching rate calculator says you should pitch 4 packs or make a 2.7 l starter with 2 packs or a 4.4 l starter with one pack. (assuming a 5.5 gallon batch)

http://www.mrmalty.com/calc/calc.html


For 5 gallons (I'm assuming the OP is making 5 gal), the calculator tells me 283 billion cells. Slightly less than 3 vials/packs.
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It will be fine but the starter is cheaper and really not much work

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It will be fine but the starter is cheaper and really not much work

True, but it's a whole lot more work than doing nothing. Sometimes it's worth the $6 to not have to worry about a starter.
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It would be far cheaper to make a starter. It costs about $1/liter in DME to make a starter, which is far cheaper than the $6-8 for another pack!

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