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Old 09-29-2008, 05:43 PM   #1
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Default Thinking about jumping from extract to partial mash

#1) I'm looking at the possibility of getting into partial mashes. For starters, anyone have a great go to source on the internet for partial mashing. I've looked @ howtobrew.com and a couple other sites but it seems like mini mashing gets wrapped up into all grain...and because I dont have enough knowledge about it... I don't know where to cross the line between the 2.

#2) In terms of additional equipment for partial mash....do I only need a converted cooler? Will this pay for itself seeing that base grains are cheaper than LME? How many lbs of a base grain will I have to buy in order to have it equal to a standard 3.3lb can of LME....I just want to get a ballpark of how much $ I'd save per batch buy switching from extract to partial mash.

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Old 09-29-2008, 05:57 PM   #2
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I jumped straight in to mini-mash recipes and can testify that it's very easy (if you have a thermometer and grain bag). All my recipe kits came from Austin Homebrew Supply.

It basically only requires one extra step - steeping (soaking) the grains (in a grain bag) in the range of 150-160 deg F for anywhere from 15 min to an hour prior to adding the LME (depending on what the recipe calls for). The only tricky part is maintaining the temperature - which isn't tricky at all with a good thermometer.

I can't answer your second question (the savings)... because I haven't done both.

Disclaimer - I've only brewed 2 batches total.

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Old 09-29-2008, 06:07 PM   #3
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For starters, anyone have a great go to source on the internet for partial mashing.
I found this helpful:
Homebrew Headquarters: Partial Mash

AHS has good partial mash kits:
http://www.austinhomebrew.com/

And here's a good video I found helpful:
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Old 09-29-2008, 06:14 PM   #4
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I could be wrong...but I believe you are referring to simply steeping grains with specialy grains....as opposed to mashing with base grains

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Yeah.... I think you're right. I'm clearly confused. Sorry about that.

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I could be wrong...but I believe you are referring to simply steeping grains with specialy grains....as opposed to mashing with base grains
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Yeah.... I think you're right. I'm clearly confused. Sorry about that.
Actually, I think jgohean is correct. I did a couple of Austinhomebrew.com 's pm recipes a while back, and the mash is done in a grain bag just as described. The technique is very much like steeping, except base grains are included and the mash is held at 153 or so for an hour.

See Deathbrewer's PM instructional thread. That would show it in detail. It's no more difficult than steeping, and makes great beer!

3.3 pounds of LME would equal approximately 5 pounds of 2-row.
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Yea - depends what you are looking for. I went into mini mashing after two extracts and it's pretty easy - just steeping on steroids.

So there is

100% Extract
Extract with Specialty Grains (steeping the grains before boil)
Mini Mashing (using base grains along with steeping grains)
All Grain

I don't believe there is a version between Mini and AG.

Extract with Specialty grains is pretty easy and temp control is not a big deal for the 15 minutes. You will need a grain bag and thermonuclear . LOL I love spelling checkers LOL thermometer.

It's like making tea with out squeezing the tea bag. .

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3.3 pounds of LME would equal approximately 5 pounds of 2-row.
as always thanks YB. Now...is 8.75lbs of 2-row a PM or a AG? Where is the weigh cutoff?

I was thinking this would be a good first PM/ AG brew
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/865527-post2.html

the question is can Cara-Pils/Dextrine be PMed?
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Old 09-29-2008, 06:35 PM   #10
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Thanks for the post yooperbrew....I guess I don't even need a cooler for mini-mashing...I can simply use a grain bag.

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