Swing-top bottles vs. regular bottles

MicahC · 06-10-2008, 03:27 AM

I have been wanting to give home brewing a crack for a while now. I've finally purchased one of those "starter" kits and am going to try out the recipe that comes with it just to get my feet wet.

I've been saving Grolsch-style bottles for a little while (I have about 7 green pint bottles and 10 brown pint bottles) thinking they'd be more convenient to use... plus I love the "thomp" when they open. I was going to continue collecting these bottles, however, now I'm reading that they can't hold the pressure for bottle conditioning (I wasn't going to do second fermentation my first go around). I've also read that they *can* be used but you have to replace the gaskets every go around.

So, my 2 questions are:

1. What are your experiences with flip-top Grolsch style bottles?
2. When buying new gaskets, are there different sizes/materials that work better? Where would I get them?

Vatechtigger · 06-10-2008, 03:35 AM

if they hold preassure on the shelf, why wouldnt they hold the preasure during bottle conditioning?

**Nurmey** · 06-10-2008, 03:40 AM

I've used them for a few years without any issues. I have heard of folks having trouble with loose tops but that has not been the case for me and I have several cases I use.

The gaskets only need to be changed when cracked or old and gunky. I can't remember exactly but it's not more than a couple of bucks for a new package of them.

**Spunkmeyer** · 06-10-2008, 03:41 AM

The real Grolsch bottles (with the ceramic tops) seem to hold a seal better than some people's experiences with the homebrew store ones, which usually have a plastic top. There's been some discussion that the seams of the plastic lids may interfere with the rubber gasket, and you may need to sand them down to eliminate the seam. I haven't had that problem, but the explanation seems plausible.

Flip-top bottles can hold the pressure of bottle conditioning without problems... the seals can wear out but that's more on the order of every 5-6 batches. Just make sure the gasket is well centered when you seal them for bottling and it should be OK. I've used 1L flippies for 3 batches now and only had one that didn't hold a seal, and that was because I was careless in centering the gasket when I closed it up.

You should be able to get replacement gaskets if you need them at almost any homebrew store, and they're available at almost every online store I know of.

Good luck!

brewssuds · 06-15-2008, 05:30 AM

I've been using Grolsch bottle for over a year now with no problems. I replaced the original rubber gaskets with new plastic ones. I've got some gaskets that I've used for 15-16 batches (a year's worth), and they're just starting to look like they might need to be replaced. I get varying "pops", but I haven't had any flat beer yet (some bottles/gaskets do seem to hold a seal better than others).

FlyGuy · 06-15-2008, 05:34 AM

I have over 400 Grolsch bottles (and a bunch of assorted other swing-tops) and never once had a problem with a bottle not carbonating fully.

Having said this, I am pretty much only using crown caps now, if I bottle. Cleaning and sanitization is a bit easier.