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Chefjp 07-23-2012 09:30 PM

stout, no maris otter
Hello, I want to brew a batcho of dry irish stout, but here in Mexico, Im not able to find maris otter, only briess 2-row brewers malt and pale malt. is it worth brewing a stout without maris otter?


McGarnigle 07-23-2012 09:42 PM

There's enough else going on with specialty grains for a stout that you may not even be able to tell the difference. Go ahead and use Briess 2-row.

JJL 07-23-2012 09:42 PM

Just use the 2 row pale malt. It's not kilned quite as much as maris otter, and the beer will turn out a little different than your recipe, but it will still make a good stout.

wolfman_48442 07-24-2012 12:26 AM

Stouts are defined by their roasted grains, and yeast. If you have those taken care of, you will have a great stout.
You can always add a splash of crystal to get a bit of color and flavor back if you're really worried :)

a6ladd 07-24-2012 01:14 AM

I absolutely love Maris as a base malt but you can make a perfectly good stout without it. Try something like this for a batch of dry stout:

8# 2 Row
.5# Caramel 80
.5# Roasted Barely
.75# Black Patent Malt
1oz Brewers Gold 60min
.5oz Williamette 20min

Irish Ale yeast (WLP 0004, Wyeast 1084 etc)


jwplessner 07-24-2012 01:30 AM

If you are subbing for Maris Otter, consider going with the briess pale ale malt vs. briess 2-row brewers malt--they have some similar characteristics. Keep in mind that even more than color, fermentability and extract will vary between MO and Pale Ale malt. Check the spec sheet or plug it into some software if you haven't already.

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