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davidr2340 02-25-2007 12:12 AM

Siphon Starter Help...
 
Ok... I might just be a dumb-ass, but is there a trick to it? When I blow into the white filter part... nothing! I took the filter off, and blew into it, and no air passes through?!?!

I know... Damn newb!!!
Thanks guys nad gals!!!

:mug:

Yooper 02-25-2007 12:40 AM

I'm having trouble visualize what you are doing. There are several ways to start a siphon- the easiest is an autosiphon. http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?products_id=974

I fill my racking cane and tube with sanitizer and start my siphon that way, if I am going from a bucket. This takes lots and lots of practice, but is very easy once you know how.

The last way is by using a carboy cap for your carboy and blowing into it. The racking cane goes through one port, you use the other to blow in. I do this often.

But, I'm not understanding what you're talking about with the filter. Could you post a link to the object you are using? Then I could be more help.

davidr2340 02-25-2007 12:57 AM

http://morebeer.com/product_images/1/3010.jpg

This is what I'm using. When I blow into the white filter part... nothing!
Hope this helps.

Bobby_M 02-25-2007 01:07 AM

You do have this carboy up higher than the receiving carboy right? Also, are you able to get the beer up into the racking cane at all? It's possible that you're getting air leaks around the racking cane. Try putting a clamp on it.

davidr2340 02-25-2007 01:13 AM

Yeah, it's up higher!
It just feels like no air is going in, like it's blocked! :confused:

foureyedgeek 02-25-2007 01:25 AM

I believe those filters are one way filters, with one side meant for sucking and the other for blowing. Maybe its switched?

davidr2340 02-25-2007 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foureyedgeek
I believe those filters are one way filters, with one side meant for sucking and the other for blowing. Maybe its switched?

I tried it both ways...
Thanks everyone for the help!!! :mug:

Yooper 02-25-2007 01:37 AM

I used the same setup (sans filter) today to rack my IPA. I had trouble for the first time, so I pulled off the racking cane tip and tried again. The only thing I can think of is that the bottom is some how clogged in your setup. Or you have air getting into the tubing between the end of the racking cane and the tip. I wish I could help you- but I just can't figure out the problem.

davidr2340 02-25-2007 01:48 AM

Well,
I just pulled the white piece off and did it without! It worked fine!

Thanks again for the help!!!
This place rocks!!!

:mug:

delboy 02-25-2007 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidr2340
Well,
I just pulled the white piece off and did it without! It worked fine!

Thanks again for the help!!!
This place rocks!!!

:mug:

Im no expert but that white thing you removed looks like a hepa filter, we use them in the lab for making up small volumes of sterile media (somethings you just can't autoclave compounds without destroying them). Its a very fine filter in the um range so its small enough to let liquids/gas through and dissolved compounds but large things like viruses and bacteria can't.
By taking it off you've just blown a lot of bacteria laden expired air in there not something you want to repeat to often.
Hope i haven't rained on your parade im sure it'll be fine after all the yeasties have done there job and turned the goodies into EtOH. Never seen it discussed here but i'd be surprised if the tens of billions of yeast cells wouldn't do a good job of holding in check the growth of a few bacteria. I think they will be releasing antimicrobial compounds into the surrondings (very common thing in the microbial world where the microbes are constantly waging chemical warfare on each other, don't tell Bush and the neo-cons he'll start a war on brewing:D ).


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